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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:17:55 -0700
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Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?
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To: <jani.taskinen@iki.fi>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?
From: andi@zend.com ("Andi Gutmans")

Uhm, what makes you think we don't have asian users? I also don't recall
suggesting that we should not have Unicode support.
Don't forget how much we invested in implementing this in the engine. It
was far from trivial...

Andi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jani Taskinen [mailto:jani.taskinen@sci.fi]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:38 AM
> To: Andi Gutmans
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP
6?
>=20
> So what happened to the "Open" in "OpenSource" or is PHP now something
> else now?
>=20
> btw. 95% of Zend users propably don't need unicode but there are a lot
> more people out there who can't really use PHP right now since it
> doesn't have full unicode support. The percents pulled out of sleeve
> would be rather the opposite with all japanese/chinese/etc. asian
> countries included.. ;)
>=20
> --Jani
>=20
> On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 20:53 -0700, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> > No I'm absolutely not OK with removing this switch and as we
> currently
> > did most of the implementation for it and are maintaining it I see
no
> > reason to remove it. 95% of our users couldn't care less about
native
> > Unicode support except for the performance hit they'd take due to
the
> > slower functions and increased memory usage. For most of them they
> gain
> > nothing and only loose.
> > Anyway, don't want to reignite the thread here. I will take it
> offline
> > to discuss with the people who have been involved in this project
and
> > discuss further. The mailing list here isn't exactly working.
> >
> > Andi
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:andrei@gravitonic.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:02 PM
> > > To: David Coallier
> > > Cc: Stefan Priebsch; RQuadling@googlemail.com; Lukas Kahwe Smith;
> > > Antony Dovgal; Rasmus Lerdorf; Derick Rethans; Cristian Rodriguez;
> > > internals@lists.php.net
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in
> PHP
> > 6?
> > >
> > > Nothing is happening, as far as I can tell. We are at an impasse,
> > > basically. Personally, I am fine with removing the damn switch and
> > > going forward with PHP 6 as Unicode-only. God knows it will rid us
> of
> > > at least one headache - having to discuss it anymore.
> > >
> > > -Andrei
> > > http://10fathoms.org/vu - daily photoblog
> > >
> > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 9:14 AM, David Coallier wrote:
> > > > Time to put gas on the fire.
> > > >
> > > > Is this flag going to be removed or what? What is happening here
> in
> > > > the background that we are not seeing ? :)
> > > >
> > >
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