Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31780 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57946 invoked by uid 1010); 21 Aug 2007 09:38:27 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57931 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2007 09:38:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Aug 2007 09:38:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 63.208.196.171 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.208.196.171 outbound.mailhop.org FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 Received: from [63.208.196.171] ([63.208.196.171:1935] helo=outbound.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9A/10-54612-192BAC64 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:38:26 -0400 Received: from pc128.sanomamagazines.fi ([194.211.146.128] helo=[10.26.8.44]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1INQBq-000M8O-NW; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:38:22 -0400 X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18Ubk9reWw33SzIbcR57HD1aLjwnR0A9nk= X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 194.211.146.128 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX180ddYCMf+19TK6aW8crzPKlTa4BhMERos= Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi To: Andi Gutmans Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE92D7B0@us-ex1.zend.net> References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E1158.2030900@lerdorf.com> <468E13C6.1070109@pooteeweet.org> <468E2009.9000703@zend.com> <10845a340707060432h6516ea5eja0995dbc974baa0a@mail.gmail.com> <468E2A9C.8030704@zend.com> <10845a340707060454t24a854dfu93aad454dd1f37ed@mail.gmail.com> <468E2F78.9090002@pooteeweet.org> <10845a340707060509u70152abctf1801324be490ed1@mail.gmail.com> <468E400E.6060005@e-novative.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE92D7B0@us-ex1.zend.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:38:21 +0300 Message-ID: <1187689101.3311.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) So what happened to the "Open" in "OpenSource" or is PHP now something else now? btw. 95% of Zend users propably don't need unicode but there are a lot more people out there who can't really use PHP right now since it doesn't have full unicode support. The percents pulled out of sleeve would be rather the opposite with all japanese/chinese/etc. asian countries included.. ;) --Jani On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 20:53 -0700, Andi Gutmans wrote: > No I'm absolutely not OK with removing this switch and as we currently > did most of the implementation for it and are maintaining it I see no > reason to remove it. 95% of our users couldn't care less about native > Unicode support except for the performance hit they'd take due to the > slower functions and increased memory usage. For most of them they gain > nothing and only loose. > Anyway, don't want to reignite the thread here. I will take it offline > to discuss with the people who have been involved in this project and > discuss further. The mailing list here isn't exactly working. > > Andi > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrei Zmievski [mailto:andrei@gravitonic.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:02 PM > > To: David Coallier > > Cc: Stefan Priebsch; RQuadling@googlemail.com; Lukas Kahwe Smith; > > Antony Dovgal; Rasmus Lerdorf; Derick Rethans; Cristian Rodriguez; > > internals@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP > 6? > > > > Nothing is happening, as far as I can tell. We are at an impasse, > > basically. Personally, I am fine with removing the damn switch and > > going forward with PHP 6 as Unicode-only. God knows it will rid us of > > at least one headache - having to discuss it anymore. > > > > -Andrei > > http://10fathoms.org/vu - daily photoblog > > > > On Aug 20, 2007, at 9:14 AM, David Coallier wrote: > > > Time to put gas on the fire. > > > > > > Is this flag going to be removed or what? What is happening here in > > > the background that we are not seeing ? :) > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >