Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31772 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74285 invoked by uid 1010); 21 Aug 2007 06:28:15 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74270 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2007 06:28:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Aug 2007 06:28:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:14861] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F9/84-36574-EF58AC64 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:28:14 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:28:11 -0700 Message-ID: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE92D7E3@us-ex1.zend.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? Thread-Index: Acfju7SD60Fkq8apTeGlIA1QOTPk3gAAHG9A References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E2F78.9090002@pooteeweet.org> <10845a340707060509u70152abctf1801324be490ed1@mail.gmail.com> <468E400E.6060005@e-novative.de> <46C9EDE0.6050505@sci.fi> <46C9F186.6040501@zend.com> <46C9F425.2040104@sci.fi> <46C9FCE4.1030000@zend.com> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE92D7D8@us-ex1.zend.net> <46CA849E.6020208@pooteeweet.org> To: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" Cc: Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: andi@zend.com ("Andi Gutmans") Well that's the problem. We have put months (if not more) of work into PHP 6 but most people who are complaining aren't willing to take a stab at actually help figuring this out. No matter what we end up doing, the worst is if we make an arbitrary decision because no one had time to get the right data. I consider that part of implementing Unicode. If we can't figure it out to the detail then we should maybe dump it all together (and that's not what I'm suggesting). Andi > -----Original Message----- > From: Lukas Kahwe Smith [mailto:mls@pooteeweet.org] > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:22 PM > To: Andi Gutmans > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? >=20 > Andi Gutmans wrote: > > Before we continue this discussion I think there are a couple of > things > > which would be useful data points: > > a) What is the performance difference between an implicit Unicode app > > and non-Unicode. If we have 3-4 apps ported over to > Unicode_semantics=3Don >=20 > Honestly I do not see anyone on this list having the time to do this. > Maybe it needs to be turned into a coding contest of sorts, but the > bottom line is that its not a task that anyone but a bored student > could > do. Maybe there are a few on this list, but I doubt it. >=20 > So we might need some marketing bla bla. With a bit of blogging, a few > googies thrown in and a website: "Help determine the future of PHP6 - > port a popular PHP application to PHP6" >=20 > regards, > Lukas