Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31737 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89218 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Aug 2007 16:15:01 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89203 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2007 16:15:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Aug 2007 16:15:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=david.coallier@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=david.coallier@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.162.182 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: david.coallier@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.162.182 el-out-1112.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [209.85.162.182] ([209.85.162.182:1339] helo=el-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EA/F0-10709-30EB9C64 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:15:00 -0400 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so157698ele for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=lp1Jn9QyJ/vYB14yb9LhBQB4Xd1b6BPEGvHNCbNQ/5aaLY55jKRx111oK1iam2bw8HigdMx+L/z13p2Lk2irMzznOxx0OgP/Ep/4WUNgwHWJjWrky+yBFktr99NDJuS2c9bnwzG5MbPECgkeHOAa3Jp0BkFLQ/0EWGI0a8okpK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Hfm2qDadcaxj99n9F3ry1kayJ2rRnkAmVLzAZEXnLFMF9Uggg7seyer4VZiL7JILAai79Hb/cOsfY0VhqUHfY7v6yH8stw85VfiJOG1RHSg5izYWZMVGtcxY4LjlnzYJ3qCyuQbR6VkjOKGkvBht/uDB4Nw4/+roYB1Uoz+YwZc= Received: by 10.143.28.7 with SMTP id f7mr488374wfj.1187626495420; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.33.15 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:14:55 -0400 Sender: david.coallier@gmail.com To: "Stefan Priebsch" Cc: RQuadling@googlemail.com, "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "Antony Dovgal" , "Rasmus Lerdorf" , "Derick Rethans" , "Cristian Rodriguez" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <468E400E.6060005@e-novative.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E1158.2030900@lerdorf.com> <468E13C6.1070109@pooteeweet.org> <468E2009.9000703@zend.com> <10845a340707060432h6516ea5eja0995dbc974baa0a@mail.gmail.com> <468E2A9C.8030704@zend.com> <10845a340707060454t24a854dfu93aad454dd1f37ed@mail.gmail.com> <468E2F78.9090002@pooteeweet.org> <10845a340707060509u70152abctf1801324be490ed1@mail.gmail.com> <468E400E.6060005@e-novative.de> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 044ea0e04d2abf70 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: davidc@php.net ("David Coallier") On 7/6/07, Stefan Priebsch wrote: > IMHO backporting a lot of features to PHP4 is a major reasons for the > slow PHP5 adoption. Basically, it seems that everybody who is not using > OOP feels that PHP4 is fine for them. > > I'd say committing to backporting stuff from PHP6 to PHP5 will yield a > similar situation: very slow or no PHP6 adoption. > > BTW, can't the unicode switch be done at compile time? So one can > compile PHP6 Unicode and PHP6 non-Unicode. Then if there is a clever way > of running both engines in parallel, there should be no performance > impact inside the non-unicode engine. Since there is both versions of > the engine (that can maybe even selected by a certain statement in the > main PHP file of the application), unicode and non-unicode users are > happy. And there is only one version of PHP in the market, to conquer it > all. > > There must be a reason to upgrade to a new PHP version (usually > features, maybe performance increase etc.). But there also must be no > reason not to upgrade. But you all know this, it has been said before. > > Kind regards, > > Stefan > > -- > >e-novative> - We make IT work for you. > > e-novative GmbH - HR: Amtsgericht M=FCnchen HRB 139407 > Sitz: Wolfratshausen - GF: Dipl. Inform. Stefan Priebsch > > http://www.e-novative.de > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Time to put gas on the fire. Is this flag going to be removed or what? What is happening here in the background that we are not seeing ? :) --=20 D Do I get a buck? No so ?