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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:29:26 -0400
To: David Coallier <davidc@php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages
From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky)

David,

Most people don't know wtf you are referring to by "package", but =20
nearly everyone knows the concept of namespaces. Packages is name for =20=

an implementation of namespaces, calling it packages just because =20
language XYZ that I like, does not sound like the best of ideas.


On 17-Aug-07, at 11:18 AM, David Coallier wrote:

> On 8/17/07, Ilia Alshanetsky <ilia@prohost.org> wrote:
>> While PHP implementation of namespaces is may not be 100% of what
>> people consider to be namespaces it is close enough and I think the
>> name "namespaces" is most appropriate and clear cut. We don't call
>> PHP objects "Zend Objects" or some other strange name, I don't see
>> why namespaces should be any different IMHO.
>>
>
> If we start calling things what they are, then we might as well do it
> for the *namespaces* as well ? So ccall them package. And Stanislav,
> it's not only because java does it that way, it's because python also
> does, and also because c++ doesn't.
>
> After all, why discussing the color of the bikeshed when it's already
> painted and it's a dogshed ?
>>
>> On 17-Aug-07, at 11:06 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>>
>>> Oh dear. I thought the general feeling was to stick with namespaces?
>>>
>>> On 17/08/07, Johannes Schl=FCter <johannes@php.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've updated the patch to be compatible with Dmitry's latest =20
>>>> changes:
>>>> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/
>>>> zend_namespace_to_package_20070817.diff
>>>>
>>>> johannes
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 11:26 +0200, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we reached the consensus to rename namespaces to packages
>>>>> as our
>>>>> implementation is more package-like. Therefore I wrote the
>>>>> corresponding
>>>>> patch which tries to get rid of all "namespaces" and "ns" (well,
>>>>> not all
>>>>> "ns" only the namespace-related ones of course) used in the code.
>>>>> Additionally I changed all package-tests. Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody (with the move-on-CVS-server powers) care about the
>>>>> history
>>>>> of the tests? Then please cp ZendEngine2/tests/ns_* to pkg_*
>>>>> there else
>>>>> I'll do a simple cvs rm and cvs add.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch is at
>>>>> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/zend_namespace_to_package.diff
>>>>> and
>>>>> the tarball with the changed tests at
>>>>> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/zend_package_tests.tar.bz2
>>>>>
>>>>> johannes
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----
>>> Richard Quadling
>>> Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?
>>> c=3DZEND002498&r=3D213474731
>>> "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
>>
>> Ilia Alshanetsky
>>
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>
>
> --=20
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Ilia Alshanetsky