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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages
From: davidc@php.net ("David Coallier")

On 8/17/07, Ilia Alshanetsky <ilia@prohost.org> wrote:
> While PHP implementation of namespaces is may not be 100% of what
> people consider to be namespaces it is close enough and I think the
> name "namespaces" is most appropriate and clear cut. We don't call
> PHP objects "Zend Objects" or some other strange name, I don't see
> why namespaces should be any different IMHO.
>

If we start calling things what they are, then we might as well do it
for the *namespaces* as well ? So ccall them package. And Stanislav,
it's not only because java does it that way, it's because python also
does, and also because c++ doesn't.

After all, why discussing the color of the bikeshed when it's already
painted and it's a dogshed ?
>
> On 17-Aug-07, at 11:06 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>
> > Oh dear. I thought the general feeling was to stick with namespaces?
> >
> > On 17/08/07, Johannes Schl=FCter <johannes@php.net> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've updated the patch to be compatible with Dmitry's latest changes:
> >> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/
> >> zend_namespace_to_package_20070817.diff
> >>
> >> johannes
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 11:26 +0200, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I think we reached the consensus to rename namespaces to packages
> >>> as our
> >>> implementation is more package-like. Therefore I wrote the
> >>> corresponding
> >>> patch which tries to get rid of all "namespaces" and "ns" (well,
> >>> not all
> >>> "ns" only the namespace-related ones of course) used in the code.
> >>> Additionally I changed all package-tests. Any objections?
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody (with the move-on-CVS-server powers) care about the
> >>> history
> >>> of the tests? Then please cp ZendEngine2/tests/ns_* to pkg_*
> >>> there else
> >>> I'll do a simple cvs rm and cvs add.
> >>>
> >>> The patch is at
> >>> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/zend_namespace_to_package.diff
> >>> and
> >>> the tarball with the changed tests at
> >>> http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/zend_package_tests.tar.bz2
> >>>
> >>> johannes
> >>>
> >>
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> >
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> > Richard Quadling
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>
> Ilia Alshanetsky
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