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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:53:17 +0200
To: "Guilherme Blanco" <guilhermeblanco@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages]
From: tijnema@gmail.com (Tijnema)

On 8/15/07, Guilherme Blanco <guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/15/07, Stanislav Malyshev <stas@zend.com> wrote:
> > > Take a look at this URL and tell me which one PHP does look like:
> > > http://kaistizen.net/Project/CSharpJava/csharp_java.htm#NamespaceVsPackage
> >
> > Neither, actually. But it's not about "should we imitate C# or Java".
> > It's about what's best for PHP. My opinion is that for PHP would be best
> > to have namespaces and not packages.
> >
> > > From Portuguese Brazilian Wikipedia: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package
> > > Translated to you....
> >
> > In English, it says:
> > A software package is a bundle of one or several files that either are
> > necessary for the execution of a computer program, or add features for a
> > program already installed on the computer or network of computers.
> >
>
> A software package is that beautiful box you go to the supermarket and
> buy the product. A package in programming language is exactly what I
> wrote to you.
>
> > > All you told until now in favor of namespaces are marketing related.
> > > Just read your previous messages.
> >
> > OK, let's see - what is "marketing"? If it's "a set of efforts aimed at
> > promoting better understanding and wider usage of PHP language" than I
> > don't see how it can be bad and how it is not important to consider.
> >
> > If it's "an evil conspiracy of suit-wearing aliens to subvert PHP
> > community to serve their evil alien purposes" then I know nothing about
> > it but it definitely doesn't have anything to do with what I do.
>
> No. You mentioned not only once that namespace are better for users to
> understand than packages.
>
> Seems you are the only one until now that still want to keep "namespace".
> But I already have a solution to it.... I already mentioned on IRC.
>
> Instead of namespace or package, you can go to something like
> zendspace or stanspace
>

+1 zendspace

Tijnema
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