Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31588 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21474 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Aug 2007 18:09:19 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21459 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2007 18:09:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Aug 2007 18:09:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:16773] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CB/00-20080-C4143C64 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:09:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.16.180]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:09:14 -0700 Message-ID: <46C340D1.3070700@zend.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:07:13 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Guilherme Blanco CC: PHP Internals References: <46BE14B1.5050209@zend.com> <101178402.20070814174515@marcus-boerger.de> <6094eac50708150709o6d1fe42bx3449af2bc1b7f54d@mail.gmail.com> <46C337F4.5080001@zend.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2007 18:09:14.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[63162650:01C7DF67] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages] From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > If PHP team release in the news: > > PHP has namespace support! > OR > PHP has package support! > > Everyone will understand what does that mean. Those that do not I wouldn't. And that's not because I'm so dense, but because "package" could mean anything, from next generation autoloader (I myself proposed such concept a while ago, and others did too) to integrating PHAR support into core. > understand are the ones that had never worked with it and can work in Or worked with different ones enough to understand that "packages" is used for a zillion of different things, while namespace is quite well-defined concept. I quoted the wikipedia a number of times, let me quote it once again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_package "A Java package is a mechanism for organizing Java classes into namespaces." Now let you find a quote which says "A C++ namespace is a mechanism of organizing C++ code into packages". I bet you won't find it - because people explain un-obvious concepts in terms of more obvious ones, and namespace is more obvious than package. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com