Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31548 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96910 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Aug 2007 13:35:43 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96881 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2007 13:35:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Aug 2007 13:35:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=larry@garfieldtech.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=larry@garfieldtech.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain garfieldtech.com from 204.127.200.84 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: larry@garfieldtech.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.127.200.84 sccrmhc14.comcast.net NetCache Data OnTap 5.x Received: from [204.127.200.84] ([204.127.200.84:54467] helo=sccrmhc14.comcast.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/10-30147-E1E50C64 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:35:37 -0400 Received: from earth.ufp (c-71-228-13-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net[71.228.13.89]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <200708131335170140006o3oe>; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:35:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earth.ufp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CC1D8185 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:35:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from earth.ufp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (earth.ufp [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sHtw1R-bovpO for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:35:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vulcan.ufp (vulcan.ufp [192.168.42.4]) by earth.ufp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0321D7C10 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:35:06 -0500 (CDT) To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:35:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <46BE14B1.5050209@zend.com> <46C04DD4.8060205@keryx.se> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200708130835.04488.larry@garfieldtech.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] Renaming namespaces to packages] From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) On Monday 13 August 2007, Tijnema wrote: > On 8/13/07, Keryx Web wrote: > > Stanislav Malyshev skrev: > > > And they, btw, are not ashamed of calling it namespaces just because > > > it's not c++ ;) > > > > Exactly. That was my main point. And, as I said,ECMAScript 4 will most > > probably be the main other language for most ordinary PHP developers, > > not Java and certainly not C. Especially the newbie ones! > > > > From a pedagogic point of view I'd say "namespaces" is the better name. > > > > > > Lars Gunther > > Uhh, ECMAScript?? ECMAScript is the formal name for what most people call Javascript. Technically Javascript is the Mozilla implementation of ECMAScript and JScript is the MS implementation. 70% of the world just calls it "Javascript", and 29% calls it "Ajax" because they don't know any better. :-) I believe the original point is that for most PHP programmers their other main languages will be Javascript and SQL, not C++ or C#, so if the goal is to use a name that's predictable for someone coming from another language we should assume Javascript as that other language, not Java or C#. -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson