Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31458 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12830 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Aug 2007 07:27:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12792 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2007 07:27:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Aug 2007 07:27:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.146.182 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.146.182 wa-out-1112.google.com Received: from [209.85.146.182] ([209.85.146.182:22421] helo=wa-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/20-10460-07A24B64 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:27:49 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so1163192waf for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:27:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o5L/kcoFEDKLXPtUeyodAtX9qecMTbRihTrwwlT9Pta/GKcjOXLAN1iyG8SbH/B0vx+SaNWYZoa6co1NN3PER4wceCje0iajW/5mLKyzAVnhhy3S5jaxgBjoGO0bBT/OEofpcLgpjQn76nuN8mPmz4699YpP7nqXPqG7zhZVp5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MZM5Dqjm6HE9CV3V7lQT01ccKQZ3pYNZoD1cAUv1bn287K6YpCGeuTzH8yjfiwuCBuWNbwOOMlkLcmAXnawvdcwlG/x2MdgdYLL8xe0L3U9fs1tE3E8aNsQzcfXYWPjRyM7t0Vs4NYGO2tB30M+igWsDjygpa2wLsDvo1SSyFvU= Received: by 10.115.78.1 with SMTP id f1mr3730587wal.1186212054798; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.47.2 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Aug 2007 00:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 09:20:54 +0200 To: "Lester Caine" Cc: "PHP internals" In-Reply-To: <46B41FD7.404@lsces.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87E4F8AF-06DE-4FCC-AD1B-83E932A5E180@prohost.org> <46B2E196.4080400@zend.com> <46B2FF97.3080302@lsces.co.uk> <46B3049E.5080309@zend.com> <46B37FBB.5030803@quipo.it> <46B382E6.9000600@lsces.co.uk> <46B39172.6060300@lsces.co.uk> <46B41FD7.404@lsces.co.uk> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.2.4RC1 Released From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) Hi Lester, On 8/4/07, Lester Caine wrote: > Pierre wrote: > > And what do you suggest to improve this situation? One of my > > suggestions is to have more DB developers (as in DB internals, if I > > can say so :) involved. Oracle and IBM (to name the largest and most > > active) understood that and actively participate. > > And IBM have a commercial interest in making it easy for them to sell > licenses, so they support EVERY well used development platform ;) Since a > large percentage of their server users were probably running free copies of > PHP anyway, they saw a support revenue stream? Not only that, they also saw customers (no fact to confirm that but that's obvious) moving away to other DBs because PHP support (naitve, community, etc.) is better. > > I'm not saying that > > you do nothing, but I'm not sure that complaining about the bad state > > of pdo_firebird is really helpful. > > See the other post. I am not 'complaining' about the fact that no one is > willing to spend unpaid time on pdo_firebird, just trying to explain WHY. If > the Firebird Foundation had the deep pockets of IBM, Oracle, MySQL etc. then > we would actually PAY someone to do it, but for now it has to have a reason to > be worked on and no one has a reason :( > > THAT is why the damage to the php_interbase driver was such a problem! I understood that but that does not make pdo support less critical for firebird's future with PHP. And that's why I disagree with "no reason to improve it". --Pierre