Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31450 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90202 invoked by uid 1010); 3 Aug 2007 19:40:12 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90187 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2007 19:40:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Aug 2007 19:40:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.190 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.190 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.190] ([209.85.198.190:51990] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 15/B8-31594-B9483B64 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:40:12 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g11so749281rvb for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UVPBg6DVs1PuTwfeKxLGAyV5uHKxP9gDWiArefNmZq6Sf+qsr0V1Yt/qlX6sHO4qMtnzKwVhrxXJ4D0jfRAWoaqbnER+rKlr2qytIe3hWa7Xp4zakNCn9sGIFyxASCbdBlBb6aUfooQZwCTP8+66qPpr68T6ZTKf/WAISn4wQ54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mR+Q8kag8uuITp+F12eR4FPGJsnDHfA8s4hTBBghuxOZmcIYR7Z9GDUyosYAo+5H1OSGQH5EKNyg+cFPk8jTJhFicfg6PCRXg+Y8aC7zhiv9lyDbkx/CUakByirVRKKO/qtrM0HSvBAJbtQrRIpIBqCincmVRzYAwymvXQFixaI= Received: by 10.114.109.1 with SMTP id h1mr3293860wac.1186170008027; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.47.2 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Aug 2007 12:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:40:07 +0200 To: "Lester Caine" Cc: "PHP internals" In-Reply-To: <46B382E6.9000600@lsces.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <87E4F8AF-06DE-4FCC-AD1B-83E932A5E180@prohost.org> <46B2DDDB.6020801@lsces.co.uk> <46B2E196.4080400@zend.com> <46B2FF97.3080302@lsces.co.uk> <46B3049E.5080309@zend.com> <46B37FBB.5030803@quipo.it> <46B382E6.9000600@lsces.co.uk> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.2.4RC1 Released From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) Hi Lester, On 8/3/07, Lester Caine wrote: > Ard was amongst the list of people who could not see any need to develop a > second driver since the php_interbase one IS working fine. It would be nice to > build a Firebird version against the modern client, and do away with the need > to build a legacy client to allow it to work. That IS in the pipeline, but as > yet no-one who uses Firebird/PHP in production has seen any need to spend time > on a more limited PDO driver ;) Ard had built a lot of capability into the > driver, and has added all the hooks for an fbird port already for a split, > which is probably now due given the extensive work Firebird has received in > the version 2 builds, and the new service facilities that it would be nice to > support directly. But even the existing php_interbase handles FB2.x without a > problem. That's nice and I'm sure Ard's work is highly appreciated by the firebird users. But I completely disagree with this strategy (mysql follows it too). In the long run you will simply loose more php "market" in favour of databases with good PDO support. I'm not saying that PDO is perfect (it is not), but pdo adoptions is growing and to be supported by PDO becomes more and more a must. I would to see more databases developers helping the PDO developers to improve it, to add what they need to write good drivers. It will be all benefits for the PHP users and for the DB developers (if they want more customers/users). --Pierre