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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:52:09 -0700
To: Markus Fischer <markus@fischer.name>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Question about Namespace patch
From: andrew.minerd@sellingsource.com (Andrew Minerd)

Markus,

> > import Zend::DB;
> > import My::DB;
> > import Woot::Database as DB;
> 
> I don't quite understand your example.

The issue was that importing an entire namespace would introduce the possibility of name conflicts. My point was simply that conflicts could still exist, so that argument is pointless.

Andrew Minerd
Software Architect
The Selling Source, Inc.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:40:19 +0200
Markus Fischer <markus@fischer.name> wrote:

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> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Andrew Minerd wrote:
> > Well, first of all, not exactly. I think you meant: not import everything from two or more namespaces with conflicting names. Secondly, that's not the only solution. You could import everything from one, and not import from the other (or use a shorter prefix). Thirdly, you're not preventing collisions _at all_:
> > 
> > import Zend::DB;
> > import My::DB;
> > import Woot::Database as DB;
> 
> I don't quite understand your example. When I look at it in real life, I
> would go for:
> 
> import Zend::DB as ZBD;
> import My::DB as MDB;
> import Woot::Database as DB;
> 
> I mean, that's is the point, to have more readable code == shorter
> identifiers, isn't it?
> 
> So your code continues to read (just made up):
> 
> $oZdb = ZDB::factor('mysql');
> $oMdb = MDB::getInstance('oracle');
> $oWdb = DB::getDriver('postgres');
> 
> instead of:
> 
> $oZdb = Zend::DB:factor...
> $oMdb = My::DB::getInstance
> $oWdb = Woot::Database::getDriver..
> 
> Isn't that a win, at last?
> 
> That's how I understood. Maybe I got that wrong.
> 
> - - Markus
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