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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:31:01 -0600
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To: "David Coallier" <davidc@php.net>,
	"Stanislav Malyshev" <stas@zend.com>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] POSIX regex
From: jeremy@peak8solutions.com ("Jeremy Privett")

Just as an additional note ...

God forbid you ever have to make some kind of change to all or most of =
your unicode strings that use "u" -- You can't exactly do a "Find in =
Files" for "u" and expect to not sift through a LOT of results that =
aren't what you're looking for. Even searching for u" (to denote the u =
right before the opening quote) would still bring back a ton of white =
noise in a good number of applications that I've seen.

Jeremy

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Behalf Of David Coallier
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:19 PM
To: Stanislav Malyshev
Cc: scott.mcnaught@synergy8.com; internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] POSIX regex

On 7/19/07, Stanislav Malyshev <stas@zend.com> wrote:
> > Yeah I also like that casting better than the "u"
>
> It's different things. Casting means "create string as binary, then in
> runtime cast it to unicode", u"" means "this string is unicode".
> --

You are right that casting means string -> binary, and that runtime
cast to unicode means a string is unicode, however, after speaking
with many php developers (not internals), the same answer always come
up "It's ugly". Does that simply mean that it's ugly ? I believe not,
it means that it's also unreadable, unclear at first look, and easy to
overlook.

One solution that I could foresee would be to recognize (unicode)
within a function call.
Ex:
strlen( (unicode) "=D3glaig");

This would runtime-cast =D3glaig to a "unicode string".

Expected answers:
1) I don't find it to be useful and better than "u"
A: It is more readable, easier to find/notice and simply cleaner.

2) No
A: Ok..

3) It's going against the usual casting standard of (type)
A: True


The decision probably has been made already and if so just let me know
and I'll stop trying to rise a voice for the community :P


And no, I do not have a patch ;-)


> Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect
> stas@zend.com   http://www.zend.com/
> (408)253-8829   MSN: stas@zend.com
>
>


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