Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:31109 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31479 invoked by uid 1010); 19 Jul 2007 18:02:50 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31464 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2007 18:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2007 18:02:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=david.coallier@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=david.coallier@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.226 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: david.coallier@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.226 wx-out-0506.google.com Received: from [66.249.82.226] ([66.249.82.226:8508] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id ED/F4-21764-647AF964 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:02:48 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so608955wxd for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:02:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Wb5/Gzp2p7S/DZ/xmAUJz7ir821jrb2cKde6j7sw23kK5IAkV3VsRvWHDiA9lKK4qmv322qGgR5UCeaJ7nCGE0FHL/mrAPwXFn0y5hVA1O2uCRtPS8I+50jJjU3m9YetZqkCGiZS1ylzyGbsRyo5YTrdWl+HBft3i+yhpKCMmfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mZT74eY0ut2Z8f8cDPTbBZhXno2dEnCwqHxiqzsdvknPdEUmh9WNRmxfcLETHtyt1Wsn1obiV5+ZdrYkgfPrsG7D08bmyrNCybOCcV9Rjp1HQJzubXFjg+jF8tnIQzrhQ+P9eU7E5APc6gnt4nZoXPOw5yFMGmkOD550Zl0s/kg= Received: by 10.90.71.3 with SMTP id t3mr3217637aga.1184868164135; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.96.12 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:02:44 -0400 Sender: david.coallier@gmail.com To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?=" Cc: "David Coallier" , "Antony Dovgal" , "Keryx Web" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <1184867441.2826.25.camel@johannes.nop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <469E59FA.6060104@keryx.se> <0E62C134-68DF-4240-81BB-3A3EEA0E293D@prohost.org> <469F6A09.2050909@keryx.se> <469F6EE1.7080104@zend.com> <1184867441.2826.25.camel@johannes.nop> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8c5ae6498283620f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] libc and random functions From: davidc@php.net I totally agree. the only reasn for the 5-2 patch was for people to test On 7/19/07, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote: > Hi David, > > On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 13:09 -0400, David Coallier wrote: > > After a bit of discussion with Jani, I came to realize that keeping > > the wrapper macro for php_rand, php_srand is plain useless. Yes some > > pecl extensions do rely on them (and for those who do, I also provided > > a patch [3]). We both realized that there's not many extensions > > relying on php_rand and php_srand thus removed it completely.. > > I don't think that removing APIs during a point release is a good thing. > Even when you grepped through PECL it doesn't mean that not more > extensions are using these functions. I'm fine with removing it from > HEAD, if there's an replacement but not for a bugfix release. > > johannes > > --=20 David Coallier, Founder & Software Architect, Agora Production (http://agoraproduction.com) 51.42.06.70.18