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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:25:31 +0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] POSIX regex
From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen)

Thank you Lucas and Antony. Could not agree more..

On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 19:19 +0400, Antony Dovgal wrote:
> Thank you Lukas for expressing exactly my thoughts on this.
> 
> On 16.07.2007 18:24, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> > Andi Gutmans wrote:
> >> Even in PHP 6 I am not sure it's a good idea. There are a huge amount of
> >> apps that use them and it'll be very hard for people to upgrade.
> >> Anyway, let's do some more research on that once we get closer to PHP 6
> >> and see what the migration path looks like. We'll have to check with a
> >> few popular apps + google code search :)
> >> No need to decide on that right now without having more info.
> > 
> > I disagree with this approach. The thing is that we need to get a clear 
> > message out ASAP. This all ties into topics like if we will have a 
> > unicode off/on switch or not. Delaying these decisions will hurt our 
> > userbase. We need to prepare them early.
> > 
> > IMHO we should use PHP6 as the clean up release. Drop unicode on/off 
> > switch, accept that the bulk of all code will need to be rewritten from 
> > scratch. The benefit will be that it will truely be cleaned up, people 
> > will still be able to leverage the bulk of their PHP programming 
> > background and they can enjoy the fastest possible unicode engine we can 
> > provide them.
> > 
> > PHP5 will be for the people that cannot make the jump. We will back port 
> > whatever we can reasonably get into PHP5. People will linger on PHP5, 
> > just as they are doing now with PHP4. So it goes. At least we will not 
> > punish the early adopters for those that are unwilling to move to the 
> > new version in the near future anyways.
> > 
> > At any rate .. the time is now to make a decision on what its gonna be. 
> > PHP6 with BC hacks or not.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Lukas
> > 
> 
>