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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] POSIX regex
From: antony@zend.com (Antony Dovgal)

Thank you Lukas for expressing exactly my thoughts on this.

On 16.07.2007 18:24, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> Andi Gutmans wrote:
>> Even in PHP 6 I am not sure it's a good idea. There are a huge amount of
>> apps that use them and it'll be very hard for people to upgrade.
>> Anyway, let's do some more research on that once we get closer to PHP 6
>> and see what the migration path looks like. We'll have to check with a
>> few popular apps + google code search :)
>> No need to decide on that right now without having more info.
> 
> I disagree with this approach. The thing is that we need to get a clear 
> message out ASAP. This all ties into topics like if we will have a 
> unicode off/on switch or not. Delaying these decisions will hurt our 
> userbase. We need to prepare them early.
> 
> IMHO we should use PHP6 as the clean up release. Drop unicode on/off 
> switch, accept that the bulk of all code will need to be rewritten from 
> scratch. The benefit will be that it will truely be cleaned up, people 
> will still be able to leverage the bulk of their PHP programming 
> background and they can enjoy the fastest possible unicode engine we can 
> provide them.
> 
> PHP5 will be for the people that cannot make the jump. We will back port 
> whatever we can reasonably get into PHP5. People will linger on PHP5, 
> just as they are doing now with PHP4. So it goes. At least we will not 
> punish the early adopters for those that are unwilling to move to the 
> new version in the near future anyways.
> 
> At any rate .. the time is now to make a decision on what its gonna be. 
> PHP6 with BC hacks or not.
> 
> regards,
> Lukas
> 


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Wbr, 
Antony Dovgal