Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30874 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93974 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Jul 2007 21:39:21 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93958 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2007 21:39:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jul 2007 21:39:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:65427] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/53-59331-78F96964 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:39:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.16.180]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:39:17 -0700 Message-ID: <46969F81.9050808@zend.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:39:13 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ceo@l-i-e.com CC: Andrei Zmievski , Tomas Kuliavas , internals@lists.php.net References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7d5a202f0706141844l3c75b556hdbecbcd5a43747c9@mail.gmail.com> <4671F184.2020401@lerdorf.com> <6sof73dj69ldpspfc5ukrc58qr9ckbin2b@4ax.com> <4677E7B1.2080305@lerdorf.com> <4677F5FB.1070206@lerdorf.com> <4678252F.2050803@sci.fi> <46783212.4020900@lerdorf.com> <34654.216.230.84.67.1183064088.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <54557.78.61.224.253.1183098089.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <2159.24.1.37.132.1183693437.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <468DDFEB.3080404@zend.com> <47498.78.61.224.253.1183713764.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <2204.24.1.37.132.1184203203.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <2204.24.1.37.132.1184203203.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2007 21:39:17.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[1902EB70:01C7C4CD] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > From our perspective, you've gone and changed a fundamental data > structure out from under us, in a non-backwards-compatible way, and > broken a whole bunch of working code, for a feature we don't use, and > can't turn off [*] Supporting unicode requires such change. It is a big deal - Unicode does change the way one thinks about textual information. Text is not a collection of 8-bit integers anymore. But this step needs to be made if we want to be able to write applications that deal with modern environments requiring multi-language and multi-locale support. So PHP 6 is to make this step. > I can always find a host who will do what I want with enough effort, > but a LOT of users will just give up on PHP 6 and stick with 5 (or 4 > even) rather than do that... Maybe. But we have unicode=off option to give them a chance for smoother transition. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com