Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30826 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93299 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Jul 2007 01:59:49 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93283 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2007 01:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jul 2007 01:59:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=olivier.hill@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=olivier.hill@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.234 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: olivier.hill@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.234 wx-out-0506.google.com Received: from [66.249.82.234] ([66.249.82.234:14829] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7E/EC-05872-11B85964 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:59:48 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so210wxd for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mcAjnDoLrb1FxKpx8ujOY3y57SkhTwH5yAXgIzpA0fXUruidVDvyQXNGVaGZRVHe97GjGsKgkn8QpIrzNqkKWiuBvGSBOVXrgqn2e2dwKEcObqSD8IHkYGWzY+Hu+ngoqe/gEloVp02SeR1VNTJ+84FrVQAs6ppApaeHaLfBU+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EztmbMMzOQU48e8APe+W2KdadZObuc2io5TqCo+P6OSRofcdz6UH00DJw2YbMgEyEzGsCiAdAj513n1xxOafgtBqx6s0Fwz0kce+J8EXcc7YCrfR9wwaqLlh6X9+TPmkqIPGdUa/6vKgDWQ9SyRzayHv5Fn9JBCirxpljcf5IGs= Received: by 10.90.119.15 with SMTP id r15mr33792agc.1184205582417; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.96.13 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:59:42 -0400 To: ceo@l-i-e.com Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <2271.24.1.37.132.1184205418.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E7256.10905@zend.com> <4692B1A3.1000808@zend.com> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647897@us-ex1.zend.net> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE64794E@us-ex1.zend.net> <4693B66C.4000908@rooftopsolutions.nl> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647A32@us-ex1.zend.net> <46946B93.4030408@rooftopsolutions.nl> <2271.24.1.37.132.1184205418.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: olivier.hill@gmail.com ("Olivier Hill") Is there a reason why the last 10 messages on this thread are coming from you? It might just be me, but answering in the same email would be great. Olivier On 7/11/07, Richard Lynch wrote: > Seems to me... > > Both need to be done. > > Do both, or pick one if you can't do both, and somebody else will do > the other. That's how FLOSS works. :-) > > On Wed, July 11, 2007 12:33 am, Evert | Rooftop wrote: > > One final question.. > > > > should I assume while converting code "unicode.semantics" is on or > > off? > > > > If its on I would be making sure everything is properly casted to > > binary > > strings where this is needed, if it's off the focus would be on making > > sure the application runs on both PHP5 and PHP6.. > > > > What makes the most sense here? I would personally say I would try it > > assuming its off, as this is the most likely for the development teams > > to target for .. > > > > Evert > > > > Andi Gutmans wrote: > >> I think the sooner the better as it's valuable information for the > >> dev > >> team. > >> It'd probably be a good idea to have a Wiki where we can document > >> issues > >> that/common use-cases which are encountered. > >> Maybe we should have a Wiki on one of the php.net servers for such > >> purposes? > >> Andi > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Evert | Rooftop [mailto:evert@rooftopsolutions.nl] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:40 AM > >>> To: Andi Gutmans > >>> Cc: Antony Dovgal; Andrei Zmievski; Stas Malyshev; > >>> internals@lists.php.net > >>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" > >>> in PHP 6? > >>> > >>> Andi Gutmans wrote: > >>> > >>>> What I really think we need to do for this release, which > >>>> > >>> we haven't > >>> > >>>> been good at doing in the past, is build a PHP Compatibility Team > >>>> which tries to port many applications to PHP 6 and finds > >>>> > >>> the issues in > >>> > >>>> doing this port (both with unicode_semantics=on/off). We can then > >>>> learn from this experience and have good documentation on how to > >>>> upgrade to both modes and in some cases, like we have done > >>>> > >>> in the past > >>> > >>>> 2-3 weeks, tweak PHP 6 to not break backwards compatibility. It is > >>>> possible in many cases. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd volunteer for this. Does it help you guys to get started > >>> with this today, or should I be waiting till there's more > >>> agreement on some of this stuff.. > >>> > >>> Evert > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > -- > Some people have a "gift" link here. > Know what I want? > I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. > http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch > Yeah, I get a buck. So? > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >