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Processed in 0.107682 secs); 12 Jul 2007 01:56:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jul 2007 01:56:58 -0000 Received: from 24.1.37.132 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <2271.24.1.37.132.1184205418.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <46946B93.4030408@rooftopsolutions.nl> References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <54557.78.61.224.253.1183098089.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <4684BB91.4070507@zend.com> <2169.24.1.37.132.1183693664.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <1183699755.14343.5.camel@johannes.nop> <7d5a202f0707060224oa64dfeaw2c7ee17a735648f9@mail.gmail.com> <468E1158.2030900@lerdorf.com> <468E13C6.1070109@pooteeweet.org> <468E2009.9000703@zend.com> <468E7180.3020709@zend.com> <468E7256.10905@zend.com> <4692B1A3.1000808@zend.com> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647897@us-ex1.zend.net> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE64794E@us-ex1.zend.net> <4693B66C.4000908@rooftopsolutions.nl> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647A32@us-ex1.zend.net> <46946B93.4030408@rooftopsolutions.nl> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:56:58 -0500 (CDT) To: "Evert | Rooftop" Cc: "Andi Gutmans" , "Antony Dovgal" , "Andrei Zmievski" , "Stas Malyshev" , internals@lists.php.net, system@php.net Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") Seems to me... Both need to be done. Do both, or pick one if you can't do both, and somebody else will do the other. That's how FLOSS works. :-) On Wed, July 11, 2007 12:33 am, Evert | Rooftop wrote: > One final question.. > > should I assume while converting code "unicode.semantics" is on or > off? > > If its on I would be making sure everything is properly casted to > binary > strings where this is needed, if it's off the focus would be on making > sure the application runs on both PHP5 and PHP6.. > > What makes the most sense here? I would personally say I would try it > assuming its off, as this is the most likely for the development teams > to target for .. > > Evert > > Andi Gutmans wrote: >> I think the sooner the better as it's valuable information for the >> dev >> team. >> It'd probably be a good idea to have a Wiki where we can document >> issues >> that/common use-cases which are encountered. >> Maybe we should have a Wiki on one of the php.net servers for such >> purposes? >> Andi >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Evert | Rooftop [mailto:evert@rooftopsolutions.nl] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:40 AM >>> To: Andi Gutmans >>> Cc: Antony Dovgal; Andrei Zmievski; Stas Malyshev; >>> internals@lists.php.net >>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" >>> in PHP 6? >>> >>> Andi Gutmans wrote: >>> >>>> What I really think we need to do for this release, which >>>> >>> we haven't >>> >>>> been good at doing in the past, is build a PHP Compatibility Team >>>> which tries to port many applications to PHP 6 and finds >>>> >>> the issues in >>> >>>> doing this port (both with unicode_semantics=on/off). We can then >>>> learn from this experience and have good documentation on how to >>>> upgrade to both modes and in some cases, like we have done >>>> >>> in the past >>> >>>> 2-3 weeks, tweak PHP 6 to not break backwards compatibility. It is >>>> possible in many cases. >>>> >>>> >>> I'd volunteer for this. Does it help you guys to get started >>> with this today, or should I be waiting till there's more >>> agreement on some of this stuff.. >>> >>> Evert >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So?