Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30782 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47322 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Jul 2007 13:07:15 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47307 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2007 13:07:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2007 13:07:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 212.112.227.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.112.227.169] ([212.112.227.169:49780] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C6/82-24398-106D4964 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:07:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBF4DF01AD; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17742-03; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.114] (234.24.3.213.fix.bluewin.ch [213.3.24.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E2CDF01A6; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:08 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <37.15.59649.247C4964@pb1.pair.com> References: <468E5AB1.3080308@lerdorf.com> <468E5E3B.5090408@zend.com> <468E66B2.3060903@lerdorf.com> <468E6E0E.9020309@sci.fi> <468E7237.7060104@zend.com> <468E73A6.3090004@sci.fi> <37.15.59649.247C4964@pb1.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:07:03 +0200 To: Sebastian Mendel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 11.07.2007, at 14:06, Sebastian Mendel wrote: > +1 > > Guilherme Blanco schrieb: > >> Have you ever asked yourselves... why? why PHP5's adoption is so bad? > > it was badly advertised! > > most people don't even know how much faster it is! > to say nothing about of all the new features not known by most > developers! > (of course - most people here now them) well actually php 5.0 was slower for many things .. objects where slightly faster. 5.1 and now 5.2 bring the performance/quality up to where things where with php 4 at the time. regards, Lukas