Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30769 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16725 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Jul 2007 08:16:26 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16709 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2007 08:16:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2007 08:16:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.94.239.5 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.5 jdi.jdi-ict.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.94.239.5] ([82.94.239.5:38713] helo=jdi.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/93-24679-8D194964 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:16:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6B8FrfO012271; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:15:53 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:15:53 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.ez.no To: Pierre cc: PHP Developers Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8F68@us-ex1.zend.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Pierre wrote: > On 7/10/07, Derick Rethans wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Pierre wrote: > > > > > On 7/9/07, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'd suggest something close to what Rasmus suggested: a) We > > > > > make a clear statement on PHP.net that at the end of the year > > > > > we plan to discontinue bug fixes for PHP 4 except for security > > > > > fixes. b) We will discontinue supporting PHP 4 on 8/8/8 > > > > > (because it sounds good and gives people about a year). > > > > > > > > The attached patch mentions the above. As you can see, the idea > > > > is to release this on the 13th, 3 years after php 5 was released > > > > for this first time. > > > > > > First thanks for the patch! > > > > I changed the first two paragraphs to: > > > >

> > Today it is exactly three years ago since PHP 5 has been released. In > > those three years it has seen many improvements over PHP 4. PHP 5 is > > fast, stable & production-ready and as PHP 6 is on the way, PHP 4 > > will be discontinued. > >

> >

> > Hereby the PHP development team announces that support for PHP 4 will > > continue until the end of this year only. After 2007-12-31 there will > > be no more releases of PHP 4.4. In case security issues might arise after > > this date, we will consider making security-only releases up to 2008-08-08. > > Please use the rest of this year to make your application suitable to > > run on PHP 5. > >

> > > > I think that reads better. > > It is perfect, well done :) Almost, I want to change the 2nd paragraph to: Hereby the PHP development team announces that support for PHP 4 will continue until the end of this year only. After 2007-12-31 there will be no more releases of PHP 4.4. We will continue to make critical security fixes available on a case-by-case basis until 2008-08-08. Please use the rest of this year to make your application suitable to run on PHP 5. regards, Derick