Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30763 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52572 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Jul 2007 05:33:22 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52556 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2007 05:33:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2007 05:33:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=evertpot@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=evertpot@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.166.183 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: evertpot@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.166.183 py-out-1112.google.com Received: from [64.233.166.183] ([64.233.166.183:7044] helo=py-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7C/C1-34337-F9B64964 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:33:20 -0400 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so5218000pyh for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=cXjOxSwqdgBkV33zmQSjbaoX3c+g65WL+g0cMqRvlmEzyVtCrLkKtT3tNbiO3pJRiojASfzMAS2vllnH+8xa1Fima3VhDyDZd6LT/P4VcnVjSxr4FgAOMQd03UALUCMRN41KrArUk4fO83SjqeCxaj1pTIJrZIifGcp6mgXzOjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=SkRrgFWnrBTmkhfs4SbRDLoXmqIFqDLoBMfrsuBa8gpP4bt4qiT8nd5Ze8Qmd5B6NkQZ/VgHFeV6bPngp7TqkN82ytq+ffnLBZ1pYC3C3eQkkghpFAn61Uio8+5t9MaXoBRMtctMO4FSEZtM/z8KXgqA+HPsW0nzAUFgwQKxf84= Received: by 10.65.51.4 with SMTP id d4mr8032897qbk.1184131996542; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from evertbook.local ( [74.98.199.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e18sm6893977qba.2007.07.10.22.33.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46946B93.4030408@rooftopsolutions.nl> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:33:07 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Macintosh/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Gutmans CC: Antony Dovgal , Andrei Zmievski , Stas Malyshev , internals@lists.php.net, system@php.net References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <34654.216.230.84.67.1183064088.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <54557.78.61.224.253.1183098089.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <4684BB91.4070507@zend.com> <2169.24.1.37.132.1183693664.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <1183699755.14343.5.camel@johannes.nop> <7d5a202f0707060224oa64dfeaw2c7ee17a735648f9@mail.gmail.com> <468E1158.2030900@lerdorf.com> <468E13C6.1070109@pooteeweet.org> <468E2009.9000703@zend.com> <468E7180.3020709@zend.com> <468E7256.10905@zend.com> <4692B1A3.1000808@zend.com> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647897@us-ex1.zend.net> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE64794E@us-ex1.zend.net> <4693B66C.4000908@rooftopsolutions.nl> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647A32@us-ex1.zend.net> In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE647A32@us-ex1.zend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Evert Pot - Rooftop Solutions Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: evert@rooftopsolutions.nl (Evert | Rooftop) One final question.. should I assume while converting code "unicode.semantics" is on or off? If its on I would be making sure everything is properly casted to binary strings where this is needed, if it's off the focus would be on making sure the application runs on both PHP5 and PHP6.. What makes the most sense here? I would personally say I would try it assuming its off, as this is the most likely for the development teams to target for .. Evert Andi Gutmans wrote: > I think the sooner the better as it's valuable information for the dev > team. > It'd probably be a good idea to have a Wiki where we can document issues > that/common use-cases which are encountered. > Maybe we should have a Wiki on one of the php.net servers for such > purposes? > Andi > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Evert | Rooftop [mailto:evert@rooftopsolutions.nl] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:40 AM >> To: Andi Gutmans >> Cc: Antony Dovgal; Andrei Zmievski; Stas Malyshev; >> internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" >> in PHP 6? >> >> Andi Gutmans wrote: >> >>> What I really think we need to do for this release, which >>> >> we haven't >> >>> been good at doing in the past, is build a PHP Compatibility Team >>> which tries to port many applications to PHP 6 and finds >>> >> the issues in >> >>> doing this port (both with unicode_semantics=on/off). We can then >>> learn from this experience and have good documentation on how to >>> upgrade to both modes and in some cases, like we have done >>> >> in the past >> >>> 2-3 weeks, tweak PHP 6 to not break backwards compatibility. It is >>> possible in many cases. >>> >>> >> I'd volunteer for this. Does it help you guys to get started >> with this today, or should I be waiting till there's more >> agreement on some of this stuff.. >> >> Evert >> >> > >