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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?
From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen)

Antony Dovgal kirjoitti:
> On 10.07.2007 01:48, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
>> And I think that we shouldn't, since it removes a big incentive for  
>> people to move to PHP 6.
> 
> I don't really see much sense in forcing people to use PHP6 if we accept 
> the "PHP5 = PHP6 - Unicode" formula.
> They are just different things, period.
> 
>> Really, we need to get folks to use Unicode natively as much as possible. 
> 
> Andrei, I personally don't need Unicode at all.
> I know, that may sound weird, but that's true.
> 
>> This kind of attitude is  precisely why we've had and continue to have 
>> such an  internationalization mess when it comes to building 
>> applications.
> 
> What attitude are you talking about here?
> 
> I'm trying to be honest with myself in the first place.
> Do _I_ like that horrible IS_STRING/IS_UNICODE mess we have atm? No.
> Do _I_ want to maintain this mess in the future just because of some bad 
> design decision in the past? Noway, we had enough of that already.
> 
> I would love to have clean and easy PHP6 without all the 
> "compatibility", which creates gazillion problems to both users and 
> developers.
> Please notice that I didn't call Unicode useless crap or whatever others 
> may think about it, I just want PHP6 to be Unicode-only release because 
> it would make my personal life much easier
> without complicating others' lives.

Thank you Antony. This is exactly how I think too.

--Jani