Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30639 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57049 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Jul 2007 06:41:08 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57034 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2007 06:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2007 06:41:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ceo@l-i-e.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ceo@l-i-e.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain l-i-e.com from 67.139.134.202 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [67.139.134.202] ([67.139.134.202:2221] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 31/81-41715-288D1964 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:41:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 35215 invoked by uid 98); 9 Jul 2007 06:41:10 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.7/3609. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.070316 secs); 09 Jul 2007 06:41:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2007 06:41:10 -0000 Received: from 24.1.37.132 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2007 01:41:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <1962.24.1.37.132.1183963270.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <7d5a202f0707082329j1104badcp17c4f86c9e09c7c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8F68@us-ex1.zend.net> <4691285E.5020904@keryx.se> <4691438B.4070902@lerdorf.com> <34903.78.61.224.253.1183926344.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FEF@us-ex1.zend.net> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FF5@us-ex1.zend.net> <7d5a202f0707082329j1104badcp17c4f86c9e09c7c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 01:41:10 -0500 (CDT) To: internals@lists.php.net Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") With the benefit of a lot of reading in this thread... And not sure my vote even counts. +1 PHP4 link to museum +1 Announce ASAP "security fixes only until 8/8/8" It is not "abandoning" users, at this point, to do this, imho. They've had years to switch to PHP 5. They've got another years' worth of legacy security-only support. PHP 5 is stable enough and easy enough to switch to, for 99.99% of the code-base, that only inertia keeps most of these folks on PHP 4. I don't think it's wise to tie it to PHP 6 release. That sets a bad precedent. What if PHP 8 takes "forever" to get released, and PHP 6 *needs* to die? The only real thing to tie it to is the availability of a stable next release, and a reasonable "do or die" time-frame to migrate. -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So?