Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30636 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35681 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Jul 2007 05:28:36 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35666 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2007 05:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2007 05:28:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.146.178 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.146.178 wa-out-1112.google.com Received: from [209.85.146.178] ([209.85.146.178:7778] helo=wa-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 51/31-21898-287C1964 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:28:36 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so1214470waf for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:28:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WqLp3FHGsdFt6IPPfxJQEFqRTEni4VYrjPd0teK7fFGIfn8wb1nYGZatYwUJmYdghUSj781P0BPft/18eV9Mw6BiENoBT8GTCkmuvN8d2Uwk9D6dgh5QDPd72CS5Z6HxDgzq7dj/hRiKSaAp5XUU276izn7Qq6Ft+DPZ8/j+NAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qEOcWmantPYaF2Cfkd/hynU6oQMHiL/4L5ajq7c7vAsaNQ51P0Gi8gdkEozaiHLP5GdwtqCZzc7o2rl6gkhVuEltR9ySrDZ1Eeb0wjAa11icWOqtH9+7Kn1s/jsYHVtk2ZDfRC1z36iP2Sya+SURf3ZhFOjn5zuSykYw9IdOs7o= Received: by 10.114.156.1 with SMTP id d1mr2783736wae.1183958911170; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.47.2 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:28:31 +0200 To: "Andi Gutmans" Cc: Tijnema , "David Coallier" , "Tomas Kuliavas" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FF5@us-ex1.zend.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8F68@us-ex1.zend.net> <4690ACD9.8080709@zend.com> <4691285E.5020904@keryx.se> <4691438B.4070902@lerdorf.com> <34903.78.61.224.253.1183926344.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FEF@us-ex1.zend.net> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FF5@us-ex1.zend.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On 7/9/07, Andi Gutmans wrote: > No. If they don't get security updates then they can't really use it > anymore... That's the ideal world. They should really not use it anymore but they can and they will. No matter what we do. I saw many hosts with outdated versions or using old Debian or BSD setups (have been used a 4.3 or 4.2 in the last months). Some Linux distributors will certainly take care of php5 for an even longer period. It is not really important if it is one year or six months (not like php4 gives us a lot of work :), my preference still goes to the end of this year. From my point of view, the year is merely a marketing argument, if it helps us to get a better image, why not... --Pierre