Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30635 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11379 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Jul 2007 03:49:55 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11364 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2007 03:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2007 03:49:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:10964] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 73/F0-29695-F50B1964 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:49:53 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:49:47 -0700 Message-ID: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FF5@us-ex1.zend.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? Thread-Index: AcfBt9WWlTod+k1jRMmW5ceX+87M9wAJFGtQ References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8F68@us-ex1.zend.net> <468F23CC.9040509@lerdorf.com> <4690ACD9.8080709@zend.com> <4691285E.5020904@keryx.se> <4691438B.4070902@lerdorf.com> <34903.78.61.224.253.1183926344.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FEF@us-ex1.zend.net> To: "Tijnema" Cc: "David Coallier" , "Tomas Kuliavas" , Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: andi@zend.com ("Andi Gutmans") No. If they don't get security updates then they can't really use it anymore...=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tijnema [mailto:tijnema@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:29 PM > To: Andi Gutmans > Cc: David Coallier; Tomas Kuliavas; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? >=20 > On 7/9/07, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > Because some of us don't believe 6 months is enough time=20 > for the broad=20 > > market to make the move. > > One year is more suitable. > > As we already stated the message would already be strong today and=20 > > people wouldn't wait until the year ends with an=20 > end-of-life coming up. > > Andi >=20 > But after PHP4 is dropped, people can still use it, so if=20 > people really need to use it longer then they can just=20 > continue using it, once they are done they can still move on. >=20 > Tijnema > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: david.coallier@gmail.com > > > [mailto:david.coallier@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David Coallier > > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:21 PM > > > To: Tomas Kuliavas > > > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? > > > > > > On 7/8/07, Tomas Kuliavas wrote: > > > > >>>> Well, then I guess we have no choice but to declare > > > official PHP > > > > >>>> 4 end-of-life to be on 8:08:08 pm too :) Now we=20 > only need to=20 > > > > >>>> choose a suitable timezone :) > > > > >> > > > > >> Well, for us using the 24 hr clock I'd say 8:08:08 am (ante > > > > >> meridiem) as it otherwise will be 20:08:08 when we speak > > > and write about this event. > > > > > > > > > > Except no real geek would schedule anything for 8am. > > > > > > > > Easy. Schedule it for 8am in China. Do it in Canada, UK or > > > Israel. :) > > > > > > > > > > What about 8/8/8 8pm in china and 01/01/08 Canada, UK, USA.. > > > that way we can get rid of it quickly and if it's meaningful for=20 > > > chinese people to use the number 8, we can do it on 8/8/8=20 > for them=20 > > > (irony/joke) ? > > > Seriously.. I don't really see the point in keeping it=20 > for another=20 > > > year.. imho end of the year is great and more than enough time to=20 > > > upgrade, we've got to cut the cord sometimes.. > > > why not keep it until > > > 9/9/9 since it's 6/6/6 upside down and means the devil..=20 > the end of=20 > > > things.. could also be the end of php4 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tomas > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To > > > unsubscribe, > > > > visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D > > > > > > -- > > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To=20 > unsubscribe,=20 > > > visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To=20 > unsubscribe,=20 > > visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > >=20 >=20 > -- > Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info >=20