Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30632 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57257 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Jul 2007 23:28:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57242 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2007 23:28:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jul 2007 23:28:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tijnema@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tijnema@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.132.240 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tijnema@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.132.240 an-out-0708.google.com Received: from [209.85.132.240] ([209.85.132.240:49947] helo=an-out-0708.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2F/09-04638-73371964 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:28:56 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c18so143621anc for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AoqW37mTnni8XrRvJuhlHUKdUVVDE2ovHXb+oSbi54z93hAskPWu1jO5wh4arqCcTuHOtjr/Rfs/Fz5IUE+iNTfd2VNnz6OPZpn+usu2ho0H0TfUkHMdTaGjQM5mRy0fBHAikklsBD8z6kkvtbvtNIo/5uO0Lj1oZMaXUYMY7UA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jmJ2+thLyRuVfRW5IjApd52WWjXGW6JXhjSSJ0aU7nyD0S18oX/dj6tZRChFKVyiRgj2DBS07pIlSdqPylVVWmYod7YZecupsgPm3D7Cia+InmhQnq+xkkUR3+OYW5JqxWbg6KZc/xBhwdZerTDMwKxWSZ417f86eD8Gqlz9gSk= Received: by 10.100.141.13 with SMTP id o13mr1327848and.1183937330007; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.33.17 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 16:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 01:28:49 +0200 To: "Andi Gutmans" Cc: "David Coallier" , "Tomas Kuliavas" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FEF@us-ex1.zend.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8F68@us-ex1.zend.net> <468F23CC.9040509@lerdorf.com> <4690ACD9.8080709@zend.com> <4691285E.5020904@keryx.se> <4691438B.4070902@lerdorf.com> <34903.78.61.224.253.1183926344.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE5A8FEF@us-ex1.zend.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: tijnema@gmail.com (Tijnema) On 7/9/07, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Because some of us don't believe 6 months is enough time for the broad > market to make the move. > One year is more suitable. > As we already stated the message would already be strong today and > people wouldn't wait until the year ends with an end-of-life coming up. > Andi But after PHP4 is dropped, people can still use it, so if people really need to use it longer then they can just continue using it, once they are done they can still move on. Tijnema > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: david.coallier@gmail.com > > [mailto:david.coallier@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David Coallier > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:21 PM > > To: Tomas Kuliavas > > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? > > > > On 7/8/07, Tomas Kuliavas wrote: > > > >>>> Well, then I guess we have no choice but to declare > > official PHP > > > >>>> 4 end-of-life to be on 8:08:08 pm too :) Now we only need to > > > >>>> choose a suitable timezone :) > > > >> > > > >> Well, for us using the 24 hr clock I'd say 8:08:08 am (ante > > > >> meridiem) as it otherwise will be 20:08:08 when we speak > > and write about this event. > > > > > > > > Except no real geek would schedule anything for 8am. > > > > > > Easy. Schedule it for 8am in China. Do it in Canada, UK or > > Israel. :) > > > > > > > What about 8/8/8 8pm in china and 01/01/08 Canada, UK, USA.. > > that way we can get rid of it quickly and if it's meaningful > > for chinese people to use the number 8, we can do it on 8/8/8 > > for them (irony/joke) ? > > Seriously.. I don't really see the point in keeping it for > > another year.. imho end of the year is great and more than > > enough time to upgrade, we've got to cut the cord sometimes.. > > why not keep it until > > 9/9/9 since it's 6/6/6 upside down and means the devil.. the > > end of things.. could also be the end of php4 > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tomas > > > > > > -- > > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To > > unsubscribe, > > > visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > > > > D > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To > > unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info