Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30562 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30456 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Jul 2007 18:57:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30441 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2007 18:57:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2007 18:57:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=djnecrogami@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=djnecrogami@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.227 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: djnecrogami@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.227 wx-out-0506.google.com Received: from [66.249.82.227] ([66.249.82.227:22098] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C1/82-09628-7809E864 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:57:12 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so296528wxd for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:57:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; b=GABjFJjez1emnOQpe0tdcn0u6qJ/XEuYxRaroyC0jjtBuhInXS0UXaryHE5Cyc3kPkgIHW5j81eqoYSxh0veYZDEjumsQeYONC3lahDkt10KhSNmFa/w1sZvB0NeBrXpJiKCWZBU2fD3V7QOJLDLu8++dlOlV/pGEpOh0vhqcl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; b=I/FPmq6Wd1NtdqDdekaY8cTdzwF2yarTaOUo5eHnvVHyYMxM8u46FshtGdmafvniGqsokhFRi+U/3v0kB+aTK03cTbx254uTugPVHk61eWXhxBhCV/EJSMwhDiwPqdrRvLx9JCZvQdUhgeyn9+ApTB7JJy6UIhSRDdTIJ3EDwxk= Received: by 10.90.92.7 with SMTP id p7mr735511agb.1183748229298; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?68.30.169.62? ( [68.30.169.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 7sm6138464nzo.2007.07.06.11.57.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.476 [269.10.1/888]); Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: <468E9000.7070901@gmail.com> Disposition-Notification-To: "Anton C. Swartz IV" Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:54:56 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) To: Tomas Kuliavas , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <468E5AB1.3080308@lerdorf.com> <468E5E3B.5090408@zend.com> <468E66B2.3060903@lerdorf.com> <468E6E0E.9020309@sci.fi> <468E7237.7060104@zend.com> <468E73A6.3090004@sci.fi> <54425.78.61.224.253.1183746088.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> In-Reply-To: <54425.78.61.224.253.1183746088.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=------------040605090403050703060104 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: djnecrogami@gmail.com ("Anton C. Swartz IV") --------------040605090403050703060104 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=------------010305040201070302040406 --------------010305040201070302040406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've found that to be true also. Lying to people who use your product will only lead to the downfall of your product. Just set a deadline and draw the hard line in the sand. --- Anton C. Swartz IV Phoenix Edge Network L.L.C. - *Owner* PHPLogic Development Services – *Co-Owner* _Based in Indianapolis, IN_ "The Opposite of war is not Peace it is Creation." Don't let sin rule your body. After all, your body is bound to die, so dont obey its desires or let any part of it become slave to evil. Give yourselves to God, as people who have been raised from death to life. Make every part of your body a slavethat pleases God. Don't let sin keep ruling your lives.You are ruled by God's Kindness and not by the law. _Romans 6:12-14_ Tomas Kuliavas wrote: >> I have my arguments. One of them is because you keep mantaining PHP4 >> for a long time. >> If you had "found a very dangerous issue in PHP4 that could not be >> resolved without moving to PHP5", I think the adoption would be >> greater. Information is everything and manipulating people's fears is >> a good way to force people to do what you want. As long as you "found" >> the issue, too many hosting companies would drop PHP4 support afraid >> of being hacked. >> > > If you start lying in order to prove your point, you lose. > > --------------010305040201070302040406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've found that to be true also. Lying to people who use your product will only lead to the downfall of your product. Just set a deadline and draw the hard line in the sand.
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Anton C. Swartz IV Signature Anton C. Swartz IV
Phoenix Edge Network L.L.C. - Owner
PHPLogic Development Services – Co-Owner
Based in Indianapolis, IN

"The Opposite of war is not Peace it is Creation."

Don't let sin rule your body. After all, your body is bound to die, so dont obey its desires or let any part of it become slave to evil. Give yourselves to God, as people who have been raised from death to life. Make every part of your body a slavethat pleases God. Don't let sin keep ruling your lives.You are ruled by God's Kindness and not by the law.
Romans 6:12-14


Tomas Kuliavas wrote:
I have my arguments. One of them is because you keep mantaining PHP4
for a long time.
If you had "found a very dangerous issue in PHP4 that could not be
resolved without moving to PHP5", I think the adoption would be
greater. Information is everything and manipulating people's fears is
a good way to force people to do what you want. As long as you "found"
the issue, too many hosting companies would drop PHP4 support afraid
of being hacked.
    

If you start lying in order to prove your point, you lose.

  
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