Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30556 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14689 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Jul 2007 18:26:15 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14657 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2007 18:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2007 18:26:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jochem@iamjochem.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jochem@iamjochem.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain iamjochem.com from 194.109.193.121 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jochem@iamjochem.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.193.121 mx1.moulin.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [194.109.193.121] ([194.109.193.121:41859] helo=mx1.moulin.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D0/70-09628-2498E864 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:26:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228B6253B3E; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 20:26:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at moulin.nl Received: from mx1.moulin.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.moulin.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gMIk6pVW3Vrv; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 20:26:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.13.54] (ip129-15-211-87.adsl2.versatel.nl [87.211.15.129]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC3B253A0F; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 20:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <468E8939.3010300@iamjochem.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:26:01 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Pierre , Stefan Priebsch , RQuadling@googlemail.com, Antony Dovgal , Rasmus Lerdorf , Derick Rethans , Cristian Rodriguez , internals@lists.php.net References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E1158.2030900@lerdorf.com> <468E13C6.1070109@pooteeweet.org> <468E2009.9000703@zend.com> <10845a340707060432h6516ea5eja0995dbc974baa0a@mail.gmail.com> <468E2A9C.8030704@zend.com> <10845a340707060454t24a854dfu93aad454dd1f37ed@mail.gmail.com> <468E2F78.9090002@pooteeweet.org> <10845a340707060509u70152abctf1801324be490ed1@mail.gmail.com> <468E400E.6060005@e-novative.de> <468E4668.4000100@iamjochem.com> <468E46DD.3050101@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <468E46DD.3050101@pooteeweet.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Jochem Maas wrote: >> Pierre wrote: >>> On 7/6/07, Stefan Priebsch wrote: >>> >>>> There must be a reason to upgrade to a new PHP version (usually >>>> features, maybe performance increase etc.). But there also must be no >>>> reason not to upgrade. But you all know this, it has been said before. >>> Namespace is one _very_ important reason. If we need a "marketing" >>> argument for PHP6 outside unicode, it is the one. I would also like to >>> do not backport it (but we can backport it as well, my main problem is >>> only this flag). >> >> late static binding is another reason (are we still going to get that?) > > well .. last I heard we are still stuck on this one, since it would > require expanding the general zval structure. oh, I see (well kind of), does this mean it may get taken off the table? or is it slated as definite (assuming a satisfactory implementation can be created)? sorry to be a bore about LSB, it's just that it's the thing I look forward to most :-), I have missed it since php5 was still in RC and I really believe that LSB would improve php's OO model. thank you for your feedback, regards, Jochem > > regards, > Lukas >