Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30523 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87720 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Jul 2007 15:07:50 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87703 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2007 15:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2007 15:07:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 207.126.228.149 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 207.126.228.149 rsmtp1.corp.yahoo.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [207.126.228.149] ([207.126.228.149:38965] helo=rsmtp1.corp.yahoo.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C6/B2-50692-2CA5E864 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:07:49 -0400 Received: from trainburn-lm-corp-yahoo-com.local (socks1.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.54.158]) (authenticated bits=0) by rsmtp1.corp.yahoo.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/y.rout) with ESMTP id l66F7X0D075228 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <468E5AB1.3080308@lerdorf.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:07:29 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Macintosh/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derick Rethans CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Derick Rethans wrote: > Ladies, Gentlemen, Kings and Princesses, > > With the nice PHP 5 / PHP 6 unicode semantics thread under way I am > trying to gauge what people feel about dropping support for PHP 4 at the > end of this year. That does not mean that we will not fix security > issues, we have to as the install base is too large, but that would be > the only thing that would warrant a new release. I already sort of > mentioned this on april 1st, but I think we should come with a slightly > more official statement. Your votes please (only -1 and +1 are > allowed)! I'm breaking your vote only rule. I don't really understand what dropping support means if we will still release security fixes. That's the mode we have been in for at least a year, so what would change at the end of the year? Dropping support to me means PHP 4 becomes like PHP 3. No new releases for any reason, and I don't think we can realistically do that yet. Saying we are dropping support and then continuing on with the status quo seems odd to me. -Rasmus