Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30493 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52741 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Jul 2007 11:54:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52726 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2007 11:54:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2007 11:54:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rquadling@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rquadling@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 64.233.162.238 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rquadling@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.238 nz-out-0506.google.com Received: from [64.233.162.238] ([64.233.162.238:61521] helo=nz-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FE/10-50692-26D2E864 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:54:11 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i1so159978nzh for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 04:54:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Uq33La+M8HzwdgKvjA4jWyjvXETjtVksm09dHMn5sMLnvHqxwdiLWtSPA/EiHL0OZRUbyBUT3a958jLnY9hGqfGQzGmlZ/E66hmTms2qR6KAPwzATfLaio0gmQ4lE8ERgu4Q6VHQmrZClcrAL867kWdZtSy/SEhbt3BTwaZMxMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NYPA7hqQYt+vHatwKwgdNjw7ol4ggcdTz9q0OoWcagt7mTa9fL2OAW4vuE4uOpc+s529Rik+OUAq2pE+JMdHntAmZvztru84i2NUz8WqKxOgWeFxROqWMESEUvXl2Rcs2JaXFQshcRBlNeEpbZHUx42Si3QCUtNbclc+Q0nMh94= Received: by 10.114.77.1 with SMTP id z1mr576651waa.1183722847782; Fri, 06 Jul 2007 04:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.205.19 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 04:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10845a340707060454t24a854dfu93aad454dd1f37ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:54:07 +0100 Reply-To: RQuadling@GoogleMail.com To: "Antony Dovgal" Cc: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "Rasmus Lerdorf" , "Derick Rethans" , "Cristian Rodriguez" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <468E2A9C.8030704@zend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2169.24.1.37.132.1183693664.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <1183699755.14343.5.camel@johannes.nop> <7d5a202f0707060224oa64dfeaw2c7ee17a735648f9@mail.gmail.com> <468E1158.2030900@lerdorf.com> <468E13C6.1070109@pooteeweet.org> <468E2009.9000703@zend.com> <10845a340707060432h6516ea5eja0995dbc974baa0a@mail.gmail.com> <468E2A9C.8030704@zend.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: rquadling@googlemail.com ("Richard Quadling") On 06/07/07, Antony Dovgal wrote: > On 06.07.2007 15:32, Richard Quadling wrote: > > If Unicode had been an extension (one of those that are part of the > > core and cannot be disabled) with its own > > classes/exceptions/functions/etc, then everyone would have been happy. > > Moreover, we do have such an extension, it's called "mbstring" and you can use it even in PHP4. > But the point is that it's _just an extension_, hence the Unicode support is far far from full. > > > Unicode is a great idea, but I don't use unicode at the moment, but > > I'd still like to have PHP6 when it is officially released without > > having to do major work to make my code compliant AND without having > > to turn Unicode off. > > If you don't need Unicode, you don't need PHP6. > It's that simple. So, all the time and effort going into PHP6 is for 1 maybe-used set of functionality which also seems to slow down the entire system. I know I MUST be missing something here. -- ----- Richard Quadling Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731 "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"