Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30282 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75714 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Jun 2007 11:32:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75698 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2007 11:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jun 2007 11:32:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.162.232 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.232 nz-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.233.162.232] ([64.233.162.232:21183] helo=nz-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DF/65-13585-46019764 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:32:52 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so157673nzi for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OvyULcTmIpTCrfEaF63T62X6Khp5RfGRGyUvVJZ2zp1mFRq+BZgy3k9pBKzZG8bA8r6KcsdSgE9+VcSqBDpH4s3ZU/xp2nB1ESMsw0ByUqptioLBlMgNetTynginGKskWjWwSyZEOytjVmRY7QMUcEQes0hHbm8vtmwS3DTqH/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DIdFPWPD4vCcmseM6XvWHv+SqTyGGBknaI8q0R92x57/yEq03wDZLU/pVQduz3xggj+o+qk2x1kQa6SCnt7oDd7XONLb3DTufKSUEnZklsK6WCTYIyAXWw0LgfjHDNPoxr1ZDCROH7Pr2Qs2DB5ggcvVfV1JR5ZdBWYv+OLF+L0= Received: by 10.114.14.1 with SMTP id 1mr210708wan.1182339170150; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.47.2 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:32:50 +0200 To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi Cc: "Rasmus Lerdorf" , "Ilia Alshanetsky" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <46790C60.6020300@sci.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1181829227.3478.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6sof73dj69ldpspfc5ukrc58qr9ckbin2b@4ax.com> <4677E7B1.2080305@lerdorf.com> <4677F5FB.1070206@lerdorf.com> <4678252F.2050803@sci.fi> <46783212.4020900@lerdorf.com> <21277473-1502-4F7E-9C3B-BE42C50DD7CB@prohost.org> <467839D0.2020301@lerdorf.com> <46790C60.6020300@sci.fi> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On 6/20/07, Jani Taskinen wrote: > What I think Ilia said (between the lines) is that basically we're forking PHP. > > Perhaps we really need to accept the fact that this has already happened.. > It started with the CPR for PHP_4_4 branch and same is now continuing with > the PHP_5_2 branch. If the support for PHP 4 was _officially_ dropped by release > of PHP 5, the adoption of PHP 5 would have been quicker than it has been so far. You are right, that's one of the only way to "force" the move, the only one I can imagine at least. A realistic way to do it is to say that 5.x will not be supported 2 years (or so) after the first stable release of php6. That's still ~5-10 years with a maintained php5.x (ok, 5.0.x was born dead ;). (No need to say that php4 support should have been stopped already) --Pierre