Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30079 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97021 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Jun 2007 20:19:12 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97006 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2007 20:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2007 20:19:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 85.214.80.207 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.80.207 unknown Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.214.80.207] ([85.214.80.207:33593] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A0/08-33808-F35C5664 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:19:11 -0400 Received: from [10.10.4.203] (unknown [194.230.53.149]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EBC1B3641 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:19:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:19:04 +0200 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655508223.20070605221904@marcus-boerger.de> To: internals@lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [RFC] SPL & PCRE as always enabled in core From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello internals, let's make ext/pcre and ext/spl first class core components and not allow to disable them. SPL: + influences a bunch of other stuff, and some extensions even behave different whether SPL is shared or built-in, this is hard to realize and understand for our users + was designed from the beginning to contain stuff that is standard in the oo world, so non standard stuff should be moved to specialized extensions like pecl/spl_types - yet another core component and special case - most important stuff could be moved to zend - but where to stop + well nothing in spl belongs into the engine, in the same way that nothing in ext/standard is in the engine. + zend engine has different license - i wouldn't allow the change + there is already too much in the engine, actually we should move stuff out of there - (oops/ouch, did i say this?) + spl only utilizes the engine, it does not influence modify anything there. + we want to be able to rely on SPL in run-tests.php PCRE: + used in a lot of stuff and influences stuff like SPL beep, go back to square one + is anybody not using this one, seriously? + other regex options suck + we want to be able to rely on PCRE in run-tests.php comments? Best regards, Marcus