Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:30061 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30612 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Jun 2007 09:09:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30597 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2007 09:09:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2007 09:09:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 63.208.196.171 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.208.196.171 outbound.mailhop.org FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 Received: from [63.208.196.171] ([63.208.196.171:1430] helo=outbound.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 08/62-11953-C2825664 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:09:02 -0400 Received: from cs136054.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.136.54] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvV2A-000BlF-4z; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:08:58 -0400 X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19xIfcZk6dv7kZ2Tur2cXVrG0j5yRlrJxU= X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 213.243.136.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18epYB+7R2KXxZDofo74LlLPgDqR+oI5tk= Message-ID: <4665282B.9030802@sci.fi> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:08:59 +0300 Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <4664304D.5010609@zend.com> <46651C40.2010109@zend.com> <46651D61.3070808@pooteeweet.org> <46651ED0.3090104@zend.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Benchmark Suite From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) I'd like to say something involving smoke and carcass but that'll bite me later so.. :) I'm all for moving the useful stuff to Zend where it belongs. But I'm totally against making SPL another exception to the rule. Along with ext/date and ext/standard that is. Extension is an extension. It's not core, it's not "standard". If there are parts in the extension that should always be available -> move to core! --Jani Pierre kirjoitti: > On 6/5/07, Antony Dovgal wrote: > >> > Well SPL should not be allowed to be disabled anyways, imho. >> >> I agree, but that's out of the topic. > > Well, as we may require for the tests suite, and it looks like a non > sense to be able to disable part of it, it is the right time to fix > solve this issue :) > > It should not be possible to disable it. Or even better, we should > move what we consider as core from SPL to Zend. > > I don't think the "hundreds" of php script and numerous iterators > should be moved but the required ones. A couple of functions or > features (I don't understand what they do in SPL) should be moved as > well: > class_implements, class_parents, spl_object_hash > > --Pierre >