Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29995 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36115 invoked by uid 1010); 31 May 2007 09:44:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36100 invoked from network); 31 May 2007 09:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 May 2007 09:44:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jani.taskinen@sci.fi; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain sci.fi from 63.208.196.171 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jani.taskinen@sci.fi X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.208.196.171 outbound.mailhop.org FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 Received: from [63.208.196.171] ([63.208.196.171:4905] helo=outbound.mailhop.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8F/03-13361-C099E564 for ; Thu, 31 May 2007 05:44:44 -0400 Received: from cs136054.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.136.54] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HthCz-000F9U-Tg; Thu, 31 May 2007 05:44:42 -0400 X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+4AEYh8Fn69F6mnbqfki30nETIl9d6SQE= X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 213.243.136.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/BPRi2WOId3iwVUFpfSS4tO/qtOCEs80w= Message-ID: <465E9910.20301@sci.fi> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:44:48 +0300 Reply-To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Dovgal CC: 'PHP Internals' References: <465E00E2.4010905@zend.com> <465E08D9.4020101@sci.fi> <465E7A28.3010100@zend.com> <465E8F99.70407@sci.fi> <465E917A.5030202@zend.com> <465E94A5.4090509@pooteeweet.org> <465E979A.1000904@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <465E979A.1000904@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5 or 6? From: jani.taskinen@sci.fi (Jani Taskinen) "worked for years" is just why I said "having a totally new major version"..meaning this is the time to fix the bad practises. For filenames this is no problem at all, you can always rename files yourself if you _really_ need to have different files around. And if you think that this breaks something..well, it doesn't. The old libphp4.so, and libphp5.so aren't changing with this, are they? :D --Jani Antony Dovgal kirjoitti: > On 31.05.2007 13:25, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> Antony Dovgal wrote: >>> On 31.05.2007 13:04, Jani Taskinen wrote: >>>> Antony Dovgal kirjoitti: >>>>> On 31.05.2007 03:29, Jani Taskinen wrote: >>>>>> The whole idea of having that number there is pretty stupid..why >>>>>> not just remove them altogether..? >>>>> >>>>> Well, in some places it's just not possible, like libphp6.so etc. >>>> >>>> You chose just the right example! Now, can you tell why it is >>>> necessary? >>>> And remember, everything is possible..there is no impossible here, >>>> we're >>>> having a totally new major version and everything. >>> >>> Well, you might want to have both libphp5.so and libphp6.so >>> installed, but only one of them enabled. >> >> Why should you be able to do this for two different major versions, >> but not for arbitrary minor versions or even configurations? > > Because this is how it works for years? > > I do agree that having version number in file names is bad idea, but we > need to think it over very good, since I don't like changing a behaviour > which existed for ages, even if it looks stupid. >