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Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:03:22 +0100
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To: "Gaetano Giunta" <giunta.gaetano@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: Fixing PECL + Core
From: rquadling@googlemail.com ("Richard Quadling")

Isn't PECL4WIN "official"? It's on the php.net domain.



On 29/05/07, Gaetano Giunta <giunta.gaetano@gmail.com> wrote:
> As a side note: does anyone think that providing on pecl4win compiled
> versions corresponding to the official pecl package releases besides the
> "compiled from cvs" versions would be a good idea?
>
> Bye
> Gaetano
>
>
> On 5/29/07, Richard Quadling <rquadling@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My post about SNAPS and PECLS a little while ago seems relevant to this.
> >
> > As a windows user, I have to rely on pre-compiled binaries.
> >
> > It was/is my understanding that SNAPS would provide me with most
> > currently succesfully compiled PHP, with some extensions built in and
> > some extensions for my ext directory - those which are deemed
> > important enough (judge important as you would like).
> >
> > PECL contained other extensions - those NOT part of the windows
> > "standard" package.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27/05/07, Gaetano Giunta <giunta.gaetano@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just to add my experience (even though the original poster explicitly
> > > asked for single extensions not to be mentioned) from a
> > > not-completely-unrelated problem: some extensions have an "internal"
> > > version number that is not always updated when the userland API of said
> > > extension is changed - see eg. Json and the recent change of behavior on
> > > decoding scalar values.
> > >
> > > This makes it very hard for people maintaining php libraries to code
> > > defensively and test the version in use to enable workarounds:
> > > - the extension version number is useless (if not managed correctly)
> > > - the php version number is useless, since the extension might have been
> > > downloaded and compiled from pecl and not correspond to the version that
> > > is distributed with the core
> > >
> > > The only option left in this situation is to test the functionality
> > > needed first, then use it, much as it is done in js - a very sad state
> > > of things... (of course I would not recommend disabling upgrade /
> > > backport of a php extension from pecl as a solution)
> > >
> > > The fact that the extension lives in both pecl and core and the two
> > > might be slightly out of sync does not help at all when trying to find
> > > out the cause of regressions...
> > >
> > > Bye
> > > Gaetano
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > -----
> > Richard Quadling
> > Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
> > "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"
> >
>


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Richard Quadling
Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
"Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"