Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29683 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23434 invoked by uid 1010); 23 May 2007 06:40:31 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23410 invoked from network); 23 May 2007 06:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 May 2007 06:40:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 212.112.227.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.112.227.169] ([212.112.227.169:54879] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B3/E3-26510-CD1E3564 for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 02:40:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAFDDF000C; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:40:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11719-09; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:40:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (125.99.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch [83.76.99.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB0EDF0106; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:40:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4653E1D2.7040109@pooteeweet.org> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:40:18 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <736AED54-1272-4924-A07D-3166A1742A2F@prohost.org> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEF72@us-ex1.zend.net> <463EDD0B.7080300@lsces.co.uk> <4e89b4260705222133y185892bdie46be2e78a2e471b@mail.gmail.com> <4653DF96.9070201@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4653DF96.9070201@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Lester Caine wrote: > PDO simply changes the ground rules without solving any particular > problem as has been said all along. Now you may well convince people > that all the native drivers should be dropped from PHP and only PDO > supplied but I hope that does not happen and that we have a PROPER > debate on an abstract database layer. One of the dream features back in the early days of PDO was a way to get a "native extension" connection out of PDO. Unfortunately this turned out to be impossible(?) to do :( regards, Lukas