Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29668 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33631 invoked by uid 1010); 22 May 2007 19:29:30 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33616 invoked from network); 22 May 2007 19:29:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 May 2007 19:29:30 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.67.16.129 dslb-088-067-016-129.pools.arcor-ip.net Received: from [88.67.16.129] ([88.67.16.129:10866] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 31/DC-45352-99443564 for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 15:29:29 -0400 Message-ID: <31.DC.45352.99443564@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:29:26 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <465022BE.1020905@hardened-php.net> <46510370.4050409@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <46510370.4050409@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 88.67.16.129 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dismantling the lies... From: phpinternals@thunder-2000.com (Mathias Bank) Rasmus Lerdorf schrieb: > Adding a check on every refcount increase is a bit > scary for the performance folks. It may be that in most realworld cases > this is an acceptable performance tradeoff. We have to balance the > seriousness of the vulnerability against the performance cost of the > fix. Sorry, but I don't agree with you. You have to think about people, who are concerned in performance. Performance is relevant in big web applications. And I think, that in such big applications security is one of the most important things. I think, no responsible person would decide to use php for a performance critical application when he/she knows, that there is a security leak. In this way, I'm sure, that security is more important. Mathias