Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29643 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7186 invoked by uid 1010); 21 May 2007 21:05:06 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7171 invoked from network); 21 May 2007 21:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2007 21:05:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:41648] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B3/62-19484-18902564 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 17:05:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.16.109]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 21 May 2007 14:05:02 -0700 Message-ID: <46520975.70708@zend.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:04:53 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ceo@l-i-e.com CC: PHP internals References: <465022BE.1020905@hardened-php.net> <7d5a202f0705201415s71982fd2jb61b8bffbb7ba6de@mail.gmail.com> <46513546.5000303@zend.com> <7d5a202f0705202303s2ff4d0cdg1157c1e245c3c2e4@mail.gmail.com> <46513745.7030701@zend.com> <000001c79b71$543e0970$fcba1c50$@com> <46513E93.5000902@hardened-php.net> <465140BE.8050502@zend.com> <4651454B.4080000@hardened-php.net> <465149FE.4070100@zend.com> <46515417.3030904@hardened-php.net> <39310.216.230.84.67.1179780581.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <39310.216.230.84.67.1179780581.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2007 21:05:02.0627 (UTC) FILETIME=[B302BF30:01C79BEB] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dismantling the lies... From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > For the record: I dunno why you left, but the MOPB ombudsman-like > approach of a security audit is a GOOD THING, imho, so I would like to > see that work continue to YOPB :-) Security audit is not just good, it's great. Everybody should have one :) So I don't think there's any problem with MOPB and things reported there. Some of them are harder to fix than others, but generally it's great to have PHP audited. More problem is when things such as "there are a lot of problems in PHP but I'm not going to specify because PHP group are bad guys" appear - then it's of no use to anyone. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/