Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29607 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9459 invoked by uid 1010); 21 May 2007 07:55:37 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9444 invoked from network); 21 May 2007 07:55:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2007 07:55:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.139 c2bthomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.139] ([213.123.20.139:24626] helo=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 93/E1-30777-67051564 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 03:55:35 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id ACC45557; Mon, 21 May 2007 08:55:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46515083.1020403@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:55:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070222 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <1082866338.20070516162127@marcus-boerger.de> <464ED249.50104@zend.com> <4e89b4260705190659xee5ccf8x7be8a9b161c3196a@mail.gmail.com> <200705201052.13177.forums@jefferyfernandez.id.au> <464FEF85.1020806@lsces.co.uk> <46512711.9070504@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <46512711.9070504@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020A.46515073.00C7,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=127.0.0.1, so=2006-12-09 10:45:40, dmn=5.3.10/2007-02-21 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> I don't see ANY reason bugs should be assigned by anybody other than >> the person who is ACTUALLY working on it? >> *IF* someone has time or has found a fix for a problem, THEY assign >> the bug to them selves and put up the fix. > > Well, there's a reason - not every developer watches bugs closely. > Thanks to great work by Antony, there's somebody who does that, but we > can't realistically expect every maintainer to do that, so assigning > bugs is the means to alert the developer that this bug is (at least > potentially) in his domain. Assigning blindly is not the right procedure. There needs to be a proper REFERRAL process so that other people who are working in the area are made aware of the problem. If the bug is flagged with the correct area or package name, then anybody can pick up the baton. Simply 'assigning' a bug to say Wez when AS HE SAYS - there are other developers - is a pointless waste of time. >> Requests for someone to LOOK at a particular bug could be made, but >> the decision on assignment should only be made by the person DOING the >> work? > > I think assignment is request to look - and if possible fix, if not - > one should indicate he can't accept it. Of course, as we know, in theory > practice follows theory, in practice it doesn't - so there are cases > where bugs are assigned but not really looked at. HOW do you 'request' a group of developers look at a bug? Personally I scan the bug summary each week to see what has popped up on my areas of interest ( The 'feature requests' should be killed from that !!! ) and that would seem to be the most productive method possible. Antony and others just needs to make sure that bugs are correctly classified and duplicates flagged and removed. There are assigned bugs there that have not moved in months and it would be nice to see the total number of BUGS going down. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird Foundation Inc. - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php