Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29593 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65022 invoked by uid 1010); 21 May 2007 06:21:50 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65007 invoked from network); 21 May 2007 06:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2007 06:21:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=judas.iscariote@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=judas.iscariote@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.233 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: judas.iscariote@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.233 wx-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [66.249.82.233] ([66.249.82.233:33412] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E7/E8-05892-C7A31564 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 02:21:49 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i31so1117533wxd for ; Sun, 20 May 2007 23:21:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sYllUFas/5ufmdRdX1uHuGuIpBHekuyYTMyRsIcmBRT20qgREUf4pvl3iE1T0Tzi2v/KCkdAgS/AazPvDiAdr032XjwKqdTk/f949VV075aSwOM8cXHeCkrX1VbRB/0LOQJQCBThPpYX6hc3o+npnZqQUAiQhQU4EqiIZbwQSFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VV3SB+gU4ElM67ndyD4IvWEs0fVS2ScfxAgFED8lpG6Ukm+5kyPdyS38CxGKTldanwZj0VUfGQjIIagtouymaHeidL7SEpR86pNZdjvPOw4Ubd//WW5i6f3hnEE5gMEk6732ZOK6Q0p1khegt5ogzfSSL5r0zIHLVnAbxVX1z2o= Received: by 10.70.21.8 with SMTP id 8mr6494103wxu.1179728506225; Sun, 20 May 2007 23:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.13 with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2007 23:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d5a202f0705202321w3a4ab7eeu7960675d6af5c08b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 02:21:46 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <46513745.7030701@zend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <465022BE.1020905@hardened-php.net> <7d5a202f0705201415s71982fd2jb61b8bffbb7ba6de@mail.gmail.com> <46513546.5000303@zend.com> <7d5a202f0705202303s2ff4d0cdg1157c1e245c3c2e4@mail.gmail.com> <46513745.7030701@zend.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dismantling the lies... From: judas.iscariote@gmail.com ("Cristian Rodriguez") 2007/5/21, Stanislav Malyshev : >I'm moe worried about the performance - the vast mayority of users will be happy with a more secure system and will like accept a 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1% slowdown in case it is slow.. I sometimes wonder what it is real target of PHP, the masses or a selected neglible group of users that requires extreme craze performance.. If you would have time to run a > benchmark using something like bench.php and maybe some more complicated > code, it'd be nice to know the result. maybe I can check that tomorrow.. but you can also run it by yourself :P However , is in your hands to end with this strange policy, you can either make the 32 bit reference counter, apply this hackaround or state publicitely in the php homepage that PHP4 will not get proper/complete security fixes anymore because you dont want to break binary compatibility to protect corporate interests or simple because it is dead. that would be clearer for users and for all the people/companies that distributes/uses your software.