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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview
From: antony@zend.com (Antony Dovgal)

On 19.05.2007 17:42, Wez Furlong wrote:
> My point is, you can't assign stuff to someone that you know is busy,
> without asking them, and then expect to be justified when you complain
> that they haven't done anything.
> 
> Andrei's point was, you can't keep telling someone that you're doing
> something, and then get uppity when everyone is waiting on you to get
> it done after no visible progress.
> 
> There is a distinction.
> 
> With regards to the bugs assigned to me, as I just said, there are
> other maintainers that can work on them, and I don't appreciate being
> singled out here, *again* (I remember the last retarded thread about
> dropping COM support...), when it is known that a) I am busy, and b)
> there are other people that have volunteered to work on these areas.

Wez, assigned bugs are just a part of the problem.
Looks like you stopped reading my mail somewhere in the middle and the second part is lost.
Ok, I'll try to clarify it again.

You did a great (I mean GREAT) job for PHP in the past and you seem to be 101% busy with your 
(real) job during the last months. That's completely understandable, but we should know what to 
do with the code you wrote - either you're still going to work on it or we can forget about 
it and move along.

That's what I'm trying to understand - do you still maintain these things or should I stop bothering very busy person?

I'm not getting angry, I'm just asking a question. 
Today we have "maintained" extensions and maintained (without quotes) extensions, 
we need to separate them somehow just to be honest with the users and with ourselves.
This way we also could speed up the process a bit, as the bugs wouldn't be assigned to wrong persons.

The same question applies to other maintainers of "maintained" extensions, but you just happened 
to say the thing which reminded me that I wanted to start this discussion looong ago..

> If you guys need my help on a specific problem, drop me a line and I
> can try to squeeze in some time to look at it.  Assigning bugs to me
> and getting angry about it is your problem, not mine.

No, there is no some specific problem, there is a major problem with the quotes around the word "maintained".
We either need to remove them or be honest and change it to unmaintained.

-- 
Wbr, 
Antony Dovgal