Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29545 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54538 invoked by uid 1010); 19 May 2007 09:00:20 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54523 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 09:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2007 09:00:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sesser@hardened-php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sesser@hardened-php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hardened-php.net from 81.169.159.221 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sesser@hardened-php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.159.221 hardened-php.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [81.169.159.221] ([81.169.159.221:51522] helo=mail.hardened-php.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E3/76-00717-3ACBE464 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 05:00:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.77] (p5B006EAC.dip.t-dialin.net [91.0.110.172]) by mail.hardened-php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A50A1202A6; Sat, 19 May 2007 09:36:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EBCA6.30301@hardened-php.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 11:00:22 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: internals@lists.php.net References: <464DCB8C.90803@chiaraquartet.net> <7d5a202f0705181813l221248cdu85197a82a1ee4227@mail.gmail.com> <464E5856.5000901@zend.com> <464EA287.5020605@hardened-php.net> <464EA816.20406@zend.com> <464EAB98.8000807@hardened-php.net> <464EADF9.4010102@zend.com> <464EB260.8080505@hardened-php.net> <464EB55E.4060708@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <464EB55E.4060708@zend.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] potential solution to user streams + allow_url_include=off From: sesser@hardened-php.net (Stefan Esser) Stanislav Malyshev schrieb: > What you see as a war, other see as a discussion. I think if you tried > viewing it as figuring out common solution and discussing options and > not combat it would make sense to you too, probably. Maybe I read a different internals list. Just read the World vs. Pierre thread. While some things in there are quite true, it is completely agressive towards Pierre. > I think it would be better to describe the problems you see with > filters in separate email and in more detail, since I have a feeling > not everybody would be following this discussion closely. And I think I repeated myself often enough. > I have a feeling that this somehow implies being Zend employee > disqualifies person from discussing matters and making decisions. One > weird position, I'd say. No it implies that Zend employees believe they have a special status because they work for Zend. Just look at Antony and his aggressive attitude to dictacte what others should do or should not do. Recent example: Antony vs. Pierre. Antony is very fast with assigning bugs to persons that have nothing todo with them. I believe there is still a bug assigned to me because in Antony's world I am responsible for it, while infact my commit was in a version AFTER the one the problem was reported for. Stefan Esser