Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29544 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46121 invoked by uid 1010); 19 May 2007 08:30:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46089 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 08:30:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2007 08:30:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:8532] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 38/B5-00717-765BE464 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 04:29:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.17.30]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 19 May 2007 01:29:25 -0700 Message-ID: <464EB55E.4060708@zend.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:29:18 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Esser CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <464DCB8C.90803@chiaraquartet.net> <7d5a202f0705181813l221248cdu85197a82a1ee4227@mail.gmail.com> <464E5856.5000901@zend.com> <464EA287.5020605@hardened-php.net> <464EA816.20406@zend.com> <464EAB98.8000807@hardened-php.net> <464EADF9.4010102@zend.com> <464EB260.8080505@hardened-php.net> In-Reply-To: <464EB260.8080505@hardened-php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2007 08:29:25.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF19B370:01C799EF] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] potential solution to user streams + allow_url_include=off From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > Everyone watching the PHP internals list can see how true it is. One war > after another, because some PHP developers are more equal than others. What you see as a war, other see as a discussion. I think if you tried viewing it as figuring out common solution and discussing options and not combat it would make sense to you too, probably. > The whole filter problematic is still unsolved. The filter hooks were > still not moved into php_register_variable_ex so that they > cannot be bypassed by mistake of a 3rd party PHP extension that > implements another POST content-type. > And ext/filter still does no daisy chaining of the filter hooks... I think it would be better to describe the problems you see with filters in separate email and in more detail, since I have a feeling not everybody would be following this discussion closely. > Let's not forget that the typical internals discussion is that some Zend > employee steps in and believes he is a leader and makes the decisions. I have a feeling that this somehow implies being Zend employee disqualifies person from discussing matters and making decisions. One weird position, I'd say. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/