Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29541 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22455 invoked by uid 1010); 19 May 2007 08:16:39 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22438 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 08:16:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2007 08:16:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sesser@hardened-php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sesser@hardened-php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hardened-php.net from 81.169.159.221 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sesser@hardened-php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.159.221 hardened-php.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [81.169.159.221] ([81.169.159.221:40849] helo=mail.hardened-php.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8E/74-00717-062BE464 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 04:16:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.77] (p5b006eac.dip.t-dialin.net [91.0.110.172]) by mail.hardened-php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914E41202A6; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EB260.8080505@hardened-php.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:16:32 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: internals@lists.php.net References: <464DCB8C.90803@chiaraquartet.net> <7d5a202f0705181813l221248cdu85197a82a1ee4227@mail.gmail.com> <464E5856.5000901@zend.com> <464EA287.5020605@hardened-php.net> <464EA816.20406@zend.com> <464EAB98.8000807@hardened-php.net> <464EADF9.4010102@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <464EADF9.4010102@zend.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] potential solution to user streams + allow_url_include=off From: sesser@hardened-php.net (Stefan Esser) Stanislav Malyshev schrieb: >> Yes I think you do not need to repeat that there is no such thing as a >> PHP leadership. > > I don't need to repeat it because I never said that and it's not true. > There's difference between leadership and not having disagreement or > discussion, even if some fail to see it. Everyone watching the PHP internals list can see how true it is. One war after another, because some PHP developers are more equal than others. It depends on the "status" of the maintainers if beta/alpha extensions are merged into the core. (ext/filter) or if they are refused. The whole filter problematic is still unsolved. The filter hooks were still not moved into php_register_variable_ex so that they cannot be bypassed by mistake of a 3rd party PHP extension that implements another POST content-type. And ext/filter still does no daisy chaining of the filter hooks... Let's not forget that the typical internals discussion is that some Zend employee steps in and believes he is a leader and makes the decisions. (Hello Antony). And this happens because there is NO leader that steps in. (Hello PHP Group) Stefan Esser