Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29537 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8626 invoked by uid 1010); 19 May 2007 07:47:42 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8611 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 07:47:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2007 07:47:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sesser@hardened-php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sesser@hardened-php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hardened-php.net from 81.169.159.221 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sesser@hardened-php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.159.221 hardened-php.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [81.169.159.221] ([81.169.159.221:51569] helo=mail.hardened-php.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 61/13-00717-C9BAE464 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 03:47:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.77] (p5b006eac.dip.t-dialin.net [91.0.110.172]) by mail.hardened-php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA551202A6; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EAB98.8000807@hardened-php.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 09:47:36 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: internals@lists.php.net References: <464DCB8C.90803@chiaraquartet.net> <7d5a202f0705181813l221248cdu85197a82a1ee4227@mail.gmail.com> <464E5856.5000901@zend.com> <464EA287.5020605@hardened-php.net> <464EA816.20406@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <464EA816.20406@zend.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] potential solution to user streams + allow_url_include=off From: sesser@hardened-php.net (Stefan Esser) > I wonder if you actually aware of the fact that there's no such single > entity as "PHP developers" and each of them is entirely different living > human? And these humans sometimes are in disagreement and some of them > are wrong? And then the thing called "discussion" happens and it's not > always about conspiring against certain security researchers? There's > no "them". Try to think about it for a minute. Yes I think you do not need to repeat that there is no such thing as a PHP leadership. The reason number one why PHP development is chaotic and unprofessional. Stefan Esser