Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29513 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82294 invoked by uid 1010); 18 May 2007 13:40:21 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82279 invoked from network); 18 May 2007 13:40:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 May 2007 13:40:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.162.238 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.238 nz-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.233.162.238] ([64.233.162.238:18233] helo=nz-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/54-48082-3CCAD464 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:40:20 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so1353138nzf for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:40:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pSwA4HBa7obvHY03Dnt5R2iJCerPdaoLPH9OsGUd6Lq06/AmK/LBevhA7BGYK8lpavOANgn51csaUEyVe0b8yPARy+nJZJQFhLreZeYTASV40m9gb0e51hBHfecbalWx1oKMSIa9mRqxQBblqc8ReydXX6g1eZi3o4gg1NPAASI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LBzMJYD2phAWBgG7VzX+ga9Ft6hjqGRMThFyK9xQqN4MKY7u6lhYRKVUMtLQhDJtvlSRJWT40DSQgn75j6SW1We1KNZAK+puBA91Y5mj+kwJyFaltahzaFzv0FNsc8SyMqBZTHZ+vKhN/bW+5Y4W/O3fkF98/n6BXWKxmgW0hq4= Received: by 10.114.171.1 with SMTP id t1mr839467wae.1179495616747; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.2 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:40:16 +0200 To: "Wez Furlong" Cc: "Cristian Rodriguez" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <4e89b4260705180626w146f4f70heaf664bec9b734c7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1082866338.20070516162127@marcus-boerger.de> <9DA317BF-24B5-4BFE-8B66-FC8F4D755872@gravitonic.com> <8FD619A8-95B6-48BD-B921-0ED6DBBF48FF@gravitonic.com> <003201c798d1$622c3680$4301a8c0@foxbox> <7d5a202f0705171621l270bd0a2p47d315b6e0e05e2b@mail.gmail.com> <4e89b4260705180626w146f4f70heaf664bec9b734c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On 5/18/07, Wez Furlong wrote: > On 5/17/07, Cristian Rodriguez wrote: > > 3. pressure oever developers does not make any good, is disrespectul, > > specially when they are not getting paid to work. > > One of the points that Andrei was trying to make was that if you > really don't have time for something, you should say so, so that other > people that do have the time can step forward and help out. Yes, and I did so, I gave the hand to Sara and Andrei. Until I got the thing back on my todo lists without explanations. > This is different from the case where only that one person is actually > capable of doing the work; pressuring them then is not so good. Nothing justifies what he said and how he said it. It is not good to act like that, no matter why or who. Remember your blog's post about you doing shit? It is just about the same, bad attitude and respectless. Can we now move to something more constructive? --Pierre