Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29506 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67169 invoked by uid 1010); 17 May 2007 23:21:43 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67154 invoked from network); 17 May 2007 23:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2007 23:21:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=judas.iscariote@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=judas.iscariote@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.239 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: judas.iscariote@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.239 wx-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [66.249.82.239] ([66.249.82.239:56461] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0E/32-10325-783EC464 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:21:43 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i31so258056wxd for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:21:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sdIpgBIEMxkeLnmbcanGO+Vy8ilmIh/dTqfL65fJgLraWdCd+O+ZLzE1SoHtqLxR+maqTmmH837NYPc+NDGsDc5GJWdUe3U9q+iplbA+mjf4YduJAZvcijR3xf4d1lVHQ9ufp9YP8QpTZUTosfVK7tQxG2yXlJrz3GqYb4k7MUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=neT7en4IPo5V2LrU0h6HUvrPYId9BT3fH1IKlBIsH+ScmoXCanB7JV46T1SdDz07zeIW06W0P82T1GtKV167vxohFMyQ2PvP1AVzN8htl6WJyB9t7XTwwFpGx5m+7xlGicQ5qetsKaCWvdu1epbC2dclmwe5m2jw/R30d7NZusU= Received: by 10.70.48.11 with SMTP id v11mr1543387wxv.1179444101009; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.13 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d5a202f0705171621l270bd0a2p47d315b6e0e05e2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:21:40 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <003201c798d1$622c3680$4301a8c0@foxbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1082866338.20070516162127@marcus-boerger.de> <852842D7-B7AB-4BD5-A342-0D5DB0E7ABBC@gravitonic.com> <9DA317BF-24B5-4BFE-8B66-FC8F4D755872@gravitonic.com> <8FD619A8-95B6-48BD-B921-0ED6DBBF48FF@gravitonic.com> <003201c798d1$622c3680$4301a8c0@foxbox> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview From: judas.iscariote@gmail.com ("Cristian Rodriguez") 2007/5/17, Steph Fox : > You still need to beat the Perl 6 release folks ;) What PHP6 needs is **not** repeating the same old mistakes over and over again : 1. It should be developed without pressure, with quality being more important than schedule, or you expect the first PHP6 releases to be as buggy and broken as 5.0.x series do you ? 2. It should have the less possible BC breaks, otherwise it will end up in a much worse scenario than PHP5 is nowdays ( aka. a very small adoption after 4 years), yes , Unicode is a nice feature, but not everyone cares about that. ( I guess Europe and Asia does though) 3. pressure oever developers does not make any good, is disrespectul, specially when they are not getting paid to work.