Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29504 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49853 invoked by uid 1010); 17 May 2007 22:18:41 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49838 invoked from network); 17 May 2007 22:18:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2007 22:18:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.175 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.175 smtpout0175.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.175] ([64.97.136.175:62433] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/EF-10325-0C4DC464 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:18:41 -0400 Received: from foxbox (86.137.113.6) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as steph.fox) id 4630CEE10011ABD1; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:18:23 +0000 Message-ID: <003201c798d1$622c3680$4301a8c0@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Andrei Zmievski" , "Pierre" Cc: "Marcus Boerger" , , "Andi Gutmans" , "Dmitry Stogov" References: <1082866338.20070516162127@marcus-boerger.de> <852842D7-B7AB-4BD5-A342-0D5DB0E7ABBC@gravitonic.com> <9DA317BF-24B5-4BFE-8B66-FC8F4D755872@gravitonic.com> <8FD619A8-95B6-48BD-B921-0ED6DBBF48FF@gravitonic.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:19:04 +0100 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Please, guys, take this argument off list if you want to continue it at all. The main point Andrei tried to make was lost in that argument. PHP 6 needs commitment from everybody involved, somewhere along the line, and we all - even hangers-on like me - need to know that someone _will_ step up to make filtering possible if we're to believe in PHP 6 ever happening. Johannes and Tony both made good points. There are still issues with streams, but more - there are real problems in the way that PHP_5_2 is seen by many devs as the current development branch. There needs to be a sitting-back, at some point, and a 'where are we up to?' moment. Lukas has done his utmost to provide that already, but it hasn't changed anything that way. I'm still watching commits to PHP_5_2 that are never merged to HEAD, and not only in ext/pdo. You still need to beat the Perl 6 release folks ;) but maybe pushing too hard isn't the way to go about it... I don't know. I just know the commitment hasn't been made yet for it to happen. - Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrei Zmievski" To: "Pierre" Cc: "Marcus Boerger" ; ; "Andi Gutmans" ; "Dmitry Stogov" Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 Preview > Oh no, you're not my problem anymore. > > -Andrei > > > On May 17, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Pierre wrote: > >> On 5/17/07, Andrei Zmievski wrote: >>> Go take a pill. >>> >>> -Andrei >>> >>> P.S. Open Source volunteering still implies a level of commitment. >> >> As well as respect, something you don't have. But this stupid answer >> just made my point. Fine, your problem. >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >