Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29367 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55953 invoked by uid 1010); 9 May 2007 00:24:58 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55928 invoked from network); 9 May 2007 00:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2007 00:24:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 212.112.227.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.112.227.169] ([212.112.227.169:52513] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/D5-13859-6D411464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:24:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F45EA5803A; Wed, 9 May 2007 02:24:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31814-05; Wed, 9 May 2007 02:24:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dt0f2n29.tampabay.res.rr.com [24.92.178.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1196A58027; Wed, 9 May 2007 02:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464114CD.7030907@pooteeweet.org> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 20:24:45 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEE88@us-ex1.zend.net> <1291095925.20070504220553@marcus-boerger.de> <4640CC76.7090104@php.net> <4640CEAC.4050107@zend.com> <4640D1C5.2010000@php.net> <4640D647.7030509@zend.com> <4640E38D.4070007@php.net> <273037947.20070509001755@marcus-boerger.de> <46410B2F.5010502@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <46410B2F.5010502@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> There is no reason to have PHP_Archive in a phar. No need whatsoever... >> it would be a waste of space! Not having the extension would lead to > > Yes, the whole whopping 20K of space uncompressed and with comments, so > could be probably 10K or less without comments, whitespace and minimized > for extraction. Serious waste of bandwidth worth discussing. Yeah, I do not think that the size is really that big of an issue in this case. It would just be a code management inconvenience (having to update the same thing in all your applications, which requires downloading an new version of the application in its entirety etc.). @Greg: Do you have any benchmark result ready to compare the difference in start up cost? regards, Lukas